https://www.oil-tech.com/amsoil-pdf-...comparison.pdf

https://www.worldsbestoil.ca/redline-vs-amsoil.php

 

Moved to the Oil section because it's about oil!!!!

 

The OP came here asking for some help, but the oil babblers turned his thread into a discussion of what oil is best, imagine that.
That crap does nothing to help the OP...

OP:
Forget changing brands of oil, you have an internal engine issue.
The engine is long past break in.
Warranty time, bring it to the dealer and get them moving to solve your problem.

 

How can ya help someone if ya don't educate them?
No one has predicted the demise or the resurrection of said engine parts or their TBO based on syn oil or dino oil.
It was/is that simple!
But their merits were being shown the best I/we know how , -without just trumping a card that says do this or that.
Oh, by the way, that's exactly what you did
That is how oil wars go.
To jump in and make an accusation of a police action is either arrogance or ignorance on your part as it has not happened.
Follow the sequence here.
If there is a set of blabber lips flapping perhaps they are yours?
Perhaps comprehension my be a problem for you?
Context, context.

 

Funny how quick this turned into an oil thread. I guess he had it coming since he did mention possibly switching to Amsoil. Nothing against Amsoil. I’ve run it before in a Twin Cam and my consumption actually increased a little but not enough to worry about. I also ran Syn3 in all 3 holes for a while. My only complaint there was I got more fuzzies than normal on my trans and primary drain plugs. It seemed to do just fine in the engine. Ran a little hotter than Amsoil and Lucas but no problem with consumption. All that to say, if you’re losing a quart every 1000 they don’t make an oil that will stop that. Switching to dino is probably a good idea if you can’t figure out what’s wrong with it. Of course it depends on how much you ride. I run about 20k a year. My bike doesn’t use any oil. If it used a quart every 1000 that Amsoil would get expensive at a quart and a half a month.

 

I've been changing my own oil for 45 years and have never owned a car or truck that used 1qt. per 1000 miles. My 2013 Outback would use a qt. between changes but that was way more miles than 1K between qts. I'm curious as to where your info comes from. From what I've seen oil comsumption in cars has increased with the 0w-20 synthetics but other than that I just haven't seen or heard of such high consumption.

 

Sorry I wasnt very clear.

I personally dont think an engine should use much of ANY oil ever...

BUT the industry standard for engines using oil seems to be 1qt per 1000 miles is considered "normal". Any more than that and its generally considered excessive and "an issue". Do some googling on it, I just did and found quite a few hits. BMW's limit is like 1 qt in 750 miles.

Again, personally, I dont like to see an engine burn or lose in some manner, any oil in between changes.

 

Thanks RJ, that makes more sense to me. Manufacturers allowing themselves some wiggle room just in case, while in practice they generally build good things that work as they should, and have a tendency not to consume oil.

 

The idea of there being a "pure synthetic" vs a "synthetic blend" is probably misleading. I'm pretty sure that ALL modern motor oils are a blend of base oils and various additives. Additives being chemicals that retard corrosion, provide high pressure lubrication, hold contaminants in solution, etc etc.

It is the additive packages that make motor oils appropriate to various applications. The base oils are, according to what I've read, the same among the oils. It is the additive packages that vary.

The word "synthetic" carries marketing connotations. And the way motor oils are marketed, it is clear to me that the marketing plans play to "man world" where there are such things as little golden liquid ball bearings in the oil.

On top of it all, Amsoil is marketed in the same way that Amway is done.

I'm not criticizing Amsoil, or any other brand. I'm just pointing out that there are a lot of marketing terminologies floating around that have nothing to do with lubrication.

Any engine oil blended for a large air-cooled motor that doesn't share oil with the transmission should be fine. More specifically, the oil recommended by the manufacturer of the motorcycle is probably the best way to go. It will be blended to order by the people who designed and build the machine. Harley doesn't make motor oil, but it specifies the additive package.

 

Oil usage is a poor choice of choice of test to know where the engine is at.
But for our purposes we will say factory built to fact specs with aunt Mables standard 30 lb ring pack.
OK- that engine should not use much oil and it does not matter what is used dino pr syn.
Viscosity is viscosity.
If you are going through a qt of oil per 1000 miles, there is something HORRIBLY wrong in a stock configuration
Hell, I go through a QT in 1500 to 2000 with a pretty hopped up engine and a 12-pound ring pack!