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So I just went back to the beginning of this thread, it was 12/11/19 when you stated you were looking for 1965 hand shift tanks. Good persistence, that is going to up the ante on this bike by a bunch. '65 button pan with tank shift, guys are going to be knocking each other over to take a look at this one when it is done. Great score!!!!!!
Not a chance on that John, but they are in very good shape overall w/ just a couple of minor dings in them. And the plus side is that the shifter, shift gate and tank emblems come with them (repainted at some point but he believes they are OEM). If so they should have the FOX markings.
Paul what John said is correct. I will only add that for me the 5K number means it is all there and in good shape, even if all apart). Mine was 3K (almost all there but needed work). Figure by the time I am done with it I will have put another 3K into it, so a total cost of 6K. Sidecar frame is a '59 but a lot of the components were the same from '37 to the late '60s as I recall (when MoC switched over to the fiberglass tub). Biggest change was the frame when it went for use on rigid frames and changed over to the swingarm frame for '58 (invoved the switch from the drum to the hydraulic brake and also invovoled a change to the frame to adapt the brake diferrence).
A decent tub is hard to find so if it is in good shape that is definitely a plus. The upper mount is the same, lower mount requires the addition of parts since the swingarm frames does not have sidecar loops. The rear attachement is comppletely different from rigid to swingarm. That went through 3 upgrade from Pan through Shovel years. fenders went from a 3 piece brace to a 2 piece brace sometime in the mid-60s
Last edited by panz4ever; Jul 11, 2020 at 01:50 AM.
Paul what John said is correct. I will only add that for me the 5K number means it is all there and in good shape, even if all apart). Mine was 3K (almost all there but needed work). Figure by the time I am done with it I will have put another 3K into it, so a total cost of 6K. Sidecar frame is a '59 but a lot of the components were the same from '37 to the late '60s as I recall (when MoC switched over to the fiberglass tub). Biggest change was the frame when it went for use on rigid frames and changed over to the swingarm frame for '58 (invoved the switch from the drum to the hydraulic brake and also invovoled a change to the frame to adapt the brake diferrence).
A decent tub is hard to find so if it is in good shape that is definitely a plus. The upper mount is the same, lower mount requires the addition of parts since the swingarm frames does not have sidecar loops. The rear attachement is comppletely different from rigid to swingarm. That went through 3 upgrade from Pan through Shovel years. fenders went from a 3 piece brace to a 2 piece brace sometime in the mid-60s
Thanks, Im undecided and no price yet. After seeing the process to convert the bike Im not feeling too inclined to do it. But then again it would go right on the 48...
Last edited by hellonewman; Jul 11, 2020 at 07:31 AM.
Thanks, Im undecided and no price yet. After seeing the process to convert the bike Im not feeling too inclined to do it. But then again it would go right on the 48...
I forgot about your latest score. Yes that would definitely be a bolt-n-go set up. I was thinking about your other bikes. With your '48 it only means adding a couple of parts to the frame (basically clamps, bolts, washers and nuts). The only mod needed is to the front exhaust pipe. Needs a dimple put in it to clear the lower bar that goes through the sidecar loops.
I've had the basic components for a sidecar for the '49 for 15 years now (frame, almost all attachments and stuff but no tub). Wanted to add it to the 49 EL but to do so meant going to a '50 set of adjustable trees or converting back to a springer and all that goes with it. Trying to find the correct date coded off-set springer was difficult and expensive due to the rarity of parts for them. Then add in the other components (fender, risers brakes and such) and it could easily run an additional $5 grand. Couldn't justify the expense.
Last edited by panz4ever; Jul 11, 2020 at 09:17 AM.
I forgot about your latest score. Yes that would definitely be a bolt-n-go set up. I was thinking about your other bikes. With your '48 it only means adding a couple of parts to the frame (basically clamps, bolts, washers and nuts). The only mod needed is to the front exhaust pipe. Needs a dimple put in it to clear the lower bar that goes through the sidecar loops.
I've had the basic components for a sidecar for the '49 for 15 years now (frame, almost all attachments and stuff but no tub). Wanted to add it to the 49 EL but to do so meant going to a '50 set of adjustable trees or converting back to a springer and all that goes with it. Trying to find the correct date coded off-set springer was difficult and expensive due to the rarity of parts for them. Then add in the other components (fender, risers brakes and such) and it could easily run an additional $5 grand. Couldn't justify the expense.
Sorry to derail your thread! Im more interested because of fitting it to the 48 otherwise I would pass. Its local and I get the impression it will be priced right. Did some research so now I need to see what serial number is on it to figure out the year. I can email you some pics.
and look something like this. Starts with the year of the frame. On mine it is 59 (1959). 1084 means (I think it means) it was the 84th sidecar produced for that year. Not sure if the VIN on the bike would have matched the serial number on the sidecar frame. I know that for 1959 FL models started with a VIN of 1001 and ended with 6750; FLH models started with a VIN of 1002 and ended with a VIN of 6753 so I would think it is possible.
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