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5150northrider 07-02-2015 06:17 PM

compensator
 
why would the compensator go out on a 2012 Street glide at under 20000 miles does anyone know?

rmc115 07-02-2015 06:31 PM

because it is a poor design and have been redesigned at least 4 times. the newest version is doing well and has to have a plastic oil divertor glued in place inside the cover. Mike

5150northrider 07-02-2015 08:59 PM

Thanks
 
So now the question is when the dealership gets the parts will it be the new ones or the original manufacturer parts?

5150northrider 07-03-2015 09:28 AM

Fixed under extended warranty
 
Hopefully harley davidson won't fix this problem with the old style parts. Again thanks I am going to call the dealership and ask! I see in the catalog there is a screening eagle upgrade would it be best to spend the money and have it put in?

Hogpro 07-03-2015 09:39 AM

Here is what you need.
http://bakerdrivetrain.com/compensator-sprocket-kit

5150northrider 07-03-2015 10:00 AM

This has been a big help thanks. Do you know if this is the same problem in my 2015 FLHXSE ? Or is it a completely different set up?

Hogpro 07-03-2015 10:16 AM

2014 is the same but different and will have the same issues. I have the 2014 version in my 2013 right now. Got a Baker sitting here to put in when I'm ready to do it.

Boost 07-04-2015 08:55 AM

The size and design of todays Harley engines combined with LUGGING the engine has as much if not more to do with compensator failure as the compensator design.

Lugging the engine places a tremendous amount of force on the compensator (not to mention the pistons, cylinders, rods and flywheel). A lot of people cruise at 2000 RPM in 5th and 6th gear not realizing how much this stresses the engine. They should be cruising at 2700-3500 RPM.

Todays engines are large. They have a bore and stroke comparable to a turbo diesel truck engine. The pistons ride on a pair of rods that are connected a single crank pin. On the power stroke, force is applied to the crank and is eventually transmitted to the compensator. On the exhaust stroke this force is released. Then this is repeated for the other piston. This on/off force rocks you comp back and forth and will eventually wear it out. Crusing at higher RPMs relieves a lot of this stress

I know... turbo diesel trucks have comparable bore and strokes and they cruse at low RPMS. They also have 6 or more cylinders that are arranged in a firing order that applies force to the crank throughout 360 degrees of rotation. AND.. They have a very stout single piece crank. Not a pressed together unit that requires a comp to help keep it from scissoring.

I personally have a stock compensator on a supercharged night train. Just over 15,000 miles since the supercharger was added. No lugging. No problems.

timsmcm 07-04-2015 09:37 AM

Anyone have substantial miles on the baker setup?

chillymac 07-04-2015 09:06 PM

I had to send mine back,it ran good and shifted smoother than ever, but it was banging on start up.

timsmcm 07-05-2015 01:21 AM

Chillymac has baker told you why it was banging? Man I was hoping that was going to be the answer to compensator problems.

chillymac 07-05-2015 07:32 PM

No they didn't, I was hopeing it was the one. it sure did feel good going through the gears.

chillymac 07-05-2015 07:38 PM

I would think it is the spring pack, Bakers is the size of the original comp 07 Fatboy, SE comp springs are 4 times bigger.????

5150northrider 07-05-2015 10:54 PM

Lugging the motor was the best information I got out of this. I will try and run in a lower gear from now on. And pass this on to my brothers. I won't be able to use 6th gear much without looking for a speeding ticket. Lol

soft 02 07-08-2015 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by chillymac (Post 14179134)
I would think it is the spring pack, Bakers is the size of the original comp 07 Fatboy, SE comp springs are 4 times bigger.????


And the SE ramps and bars are 3 times further out than the Baker ramps. Its like 2 kids on a merry go round. The kid further out will feel more of the pull to be flung off than the kid thats closer to the center. Thus needing less spring force to do the same job.

chillymac 07-08-2015 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by soft 02 (Post 14187147)
And the SE ramps and bars are 3 times further out than the Baker ramps. Its like 2 kids on a merry go round. The kid further out will feel more of the pull to be flung off than the kid thats closer to the center. Thus needing less spring force to do the same job.

that makes sense, its funny how some bikes are more affected by compensators than others, compression ratio or something

soft 02 07-08-2015 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by chillymac (Post 14188811)
that makes sense, its funny how some bikes are more affected by compensators than others, compression ratio or something

Yea I agree. Proly more bikes with no comp issues than ones with. Not a compression issue. I've been through 5 comps before I got my Baker comp. I've always wanted a simpler primary. I think the Baker comp will be the answer. The great deal is if the BC has an issue Bert will be all over a fix. Just the fact that they let real people beta test them proved that to me. Not like HD who brings a product to market and lets owners test them out of their own pocket. For what I have put in my primary I could have bought a high end belt drive with money to spare.


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