Rte 2 across WI, MN, ND, MT, ID, & WA Help
#31
04-22-2018, 07:34 PM
Road Warrior
#32
04-23-2018, 12:33 AM
Road Master
I'm no expert so take it with a grain of salt, but my understanding from living around them:
They're basically a sovereign nation and you're a guest there. If you where to visit Sweden for example you might find you need to check out the laws differently to even see if you can camp off the side of the road. You crossed a boarder and things are different.
They have tribal law and tribe members are subject to it but not state law, but are still are subject to Federal laws. It's mostly a jurisdiction thing.
As a result things that are kept in control with a local police force can be different than you're used to, because it's the Tribal police, not the state/county/city police. So somethings are up to how the Tribe wants to deal with it and makes it different than the other parts of the land you're riding through. The Crow for example have 12,000 members, at that point it gets a lot more small town politics than big state government, but about a lot more things than just road laws. It differs from tribe to tribe and it would be unwise to group them all as the same. Think Germany vs Poland. European but vastly different and calling one the other would not go over well.
Treat the area with respect and common sense. Know that some people feel protected by this jurisdiction difference (on either side) and that alcoholism and meth run extremely strong in many areas around there. It makes for a situation best avoided no matter what land you're on. This is why if you're camping I highly recommend carrying a pistol.
Meth heads are no joke.
Riding through on a highway you'll probably notice nothing.
Also, when you get to Washington's wet side be mindful of the Prius', they're spaztically murderous.
They're basically a sovereign nation and you're a guest there. If you where to visit Sweden for example you might find you need to check out the laws differently to even see if you can camp off the side of the road. You crossed a boarder and things are different.
They have tribal law and tribe members are subject to it but not state law, but are still are subject to Federal laws. It's mostly a jurisdiction thing.
As a result things that are kept in control with a local police force can be different than you're used to, because it's the Tribal police, not the state/county/city police. So somethings are up to how the Tribe wants to deal with it and makes it different than the other parts of the land you're riding through. The Crow for example have 12,000 members, at that point it gets a lot more small town politics than big state government, but about a lot more things than just road laws. It differs from tribe to tribe and it would be unwise to group them all as the same. Think Germany vs Poland. European but vastly different and calling one the other would not go over well.
Treat the area with respect and common sense. Know that some people feel protected by this jurisdiction difference (on either side) and that alcoholism and meth run extremely strong in many areas around there. It makes for a situation best avoided no matter what land you're on. This is why if you're camping I highly recommend carrying a pistol.
Meth heads are no joke.
Riding through on a highway you'll probably notice nothing.
Also, when you get to Washington's wet side be mindful of the Prius', they're spaztically murderous.
Last edited by CaptainAwesome; 04-23-2018 at 12:35 AM.
#33
04-23-2018, 07:42 PM
I'm no expert so take it with a grain of salt, but my understanding from living around them:
They're basically a sovereign nation and you're a guest there. If you where to visit Sweden for example you might find you need to check out the laws differently to even see if you can camp off the side of the road. You crossed a boarder and things are different.
They have tribal law and tribe members are subject to it but not state law, but are still are subject to Federal laws. It's mostly a jurisdiction thing.
As a result things that are kept in control with a local police force can be different than you're used to, because it's the Tribal police, not the state/county/city police. So somethings are up to how the Tribe wants to deal with it and makes it different than the other parts of the land you're riding through. The Crow for example have 12,000 members, at that point it gets a lot more small town politics than big state government, but about a lot more things than just road laws. It differs from tribe to tribe and it would be unwise to group them all as the same. Think Germany vs Poland. European but vastly different and calling one the other would not go over well.
Treat the area with respect and common sense. Know that some people feel protected by this jurisdiction difference (on either side) and that alcoholism and meth run extremely strong in many areas around there. It makes for a situation best avoided no matter what land you're on. This is why if you're camping I highly recommend carrying a pistol.
Meth heads are no joke.
Riding through on a highway you'll probably notice nothing.
Also, when you get to Washington's wet side be mindful of the Prius', they're spaztically murderous.
They're basically a sovereign nation and you're a guest there. If you where to visit Sweden for example you might find you need to check out the laws differently to even see if you can camp off the side of the road. You crossed a boarder and things are different.
They have tribal law and tribe members are subject to it but not state law, but are still are subject to Federal laws. It's mostly a jurisdiction thing.
As a result things that are kept in control with a local police force can be different than you're used to, because it's the Tribal police, not the state/county/city police. So somethings are up to how the Tribe wants to deal with it and makes it different than the other parts of the land you're riding through. The Crow for example have 12,000 members, at that point it gets a lot more small town politics than big state government, but about a lot more things than just road laws. It differs from tribe to tribe and it would be unwise to group them all as the same. Think Germany vs Poland. European but vastly different and calling one the other would not go over well.
Treat the area with respect and common sense. Know that some people feel protected by this jurisdiction difference (on either side) and that alcoholism and meth run extremely strong in many areas around there. It makes for a situation best avoided no matter what land you're on. This is why if you're camping I highly recommend carrying a pistol.
Meth heads are no joke.
Riding through on a highway you'll probably notice nothing.
Also, when you get to Washington's wet side be mindful of the Prius', they're spaztically murderous.
Well said!!
The message is to have situational awareness. Know where you are and who's around you. Having stopped in some of these towns for gas through the years, I liken the experience to stopping in a really bad neighborhood (southside of Chicago, or Gary, IN). Get in and get out don't leave your bike unattended. I would most certainly stop but I am on high alert, and trying to be invisible.
Have a great trip!!
#34
04-23-2018, 09:06 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
You don't need to carry a gas can, rode from Glacier NP on 2 all the way into the UP of Michigan ( on a RoadKing ) never a problem finding gas.
Last edited by Bricklayer; 04-23-2018 at 09:14 PM.
#35
04-23-2018, 09:22 PM
Road Warrior
#36
04-23-2018, 11:49 PM
Extreme HDF Member
I have went across 2 in that area several times from 2009 to last year. In 09 it was tore up in many areas from Montana through N. Dakota. That was the start of the oil boom. Many more gas stations, restaurants, stores, motels now. Didn't need to carry extra gas even the first time.
It has always been favored by the RV crowd.
It has always been favored by the RV crowd.
Last edited by lh4x4; 04-23-2018 at 11:52 PM.
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