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Old Aug 2, 2023 | 04:51 PM
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I have an 81 fxs with an ultima 103 in it im trying to time the cam and i cant get my tdc mark to line up with my pinion mark its 8 teeth off . First time iv been into the ultima motor what am i missing ? Oh ya allready checked the keyway on the pinions fine . Im loosing my mind
 
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Old Aug 2, 2023 | 05:24 PM
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Is your TDC mark noted as "TF" in the window?
 

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Originally Posted by 81shovleheadtillimdead
I have an 81 fxs with an ultima 103 in it im trying to time the cam and i cant get my tdc mark to line up with my pinion mark its 8 teeth off . First time iv been into the ultima motor what am i missing ? Oh ya allready checked the keyway on the pinions fine . Im loosing my mind
When timing the cam, you don't use the TDC mark because the cam mark on the crank gear is not aligned to TDC. Just line up the breather and the crank marks with the marks on the cam gear and ignore where the piston is in relation to TDC.
 
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The cam is not timed to the TDC mark - you use the pinion at 12 o’clock and the one cam mark at 6 o’clock and the other for the breather is around 2 o’clock and the cam gear is around 8 o’clock - put the cover on - set the timing at TDC and turn the trigger till the light goes out - your done

your over thinking it — the ignition is timed at the TDC mark not the cam gears - the cam is on the base circle on one of the TDC up strokes and the other time its at TDC is over lap both valves are open a bit -

 
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Make sure the TDC timing mark on the flywheel is in the correct position on the compression stroke on the front cylinder, the cam, pinion and breathers marks should look like this.

 
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Is your TDC mark noted as "TF" in the window?
yes "TF" is what iv been useing for tdc
 
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yes "TF" is what iv been useing for tdc
That's correct for an electronic ignition. (Advance weights look for the 3 (vertical line ) 0 mark.

(As Twizted said, on the front cylinder compression stroke.)
 
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
The cam is not timed to the TDC mark - you use the pinion at 12 o’clock and the one cam mark at 6 o’clock and the other for the breather is around 2 o’clock and the cam gear is around 8 o’clock - put the cover on - set the timing at TDC and turn the trigger till the light goes out - your done

your over thinking it — the ignition is timed at the TDC mark not the cam gears - the cam is on the base circle on one of the TDC up strokes and the other time its at TDC is over lap both valves are open a bit -
Finally got it figured out (kind of) ended up useing the advanced mark for the rear cyclinder to time the ignition.. fire.
d rite up and purred like a kitten
Not sure why but i,ll take it as a win..lol thanks for the help everybody
 
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