Shovelhead Advice
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ehhh go for it,shovelhead is a basic engine to work on you wont need to be a computor technition to figure out whats wrong ....and about bar hopping it will go alot farther than the local bar,people didnt just start rideing across country since evo's or twin cams came out they did it on shovels too
Shovels, pans, knuckles...2500 mile service intervals, rear chains, every 10k, top ends at about 40k. Guess as a pan rider I just do not get the philosophy "if you buy old iron you are going to be wrenching and not riding".
And as far as it being just a "bar hopper", another myth. Why is it, how is it that folks on new bikes think they are the ones who have seemingly invented long distance riding. Take a look at some old pics of riders on bikes from the 30/40/50. They sure a hell weren't "bar hoppers" and they weren't spoiled with paved roads and gadgets and attachments to the bike to make it ride like a Honda Gold Wing (no offense intended/implied to Gold Wings or HD Baggers).
You want long distance riders? Ever heard of the Cannonball Run? Coast to coast on 1915/earlier motorcycles.
Glydinrn, you obviously have a couple of nice modern baggers that fit the bill for the long distance stuff. If you get the shovel just don't buy the hype that it is only good for bar hopping.
If/when you do the switch, please post a pic.
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I'd have to see some pictures to give an idea of real worth very clean stock FLH bikes with all the trim are getting rare . It would not be a daily driver without some love & a few internal mechanical upgrades to prevent the common nick nak problems all shovels had .
Don't buy into the fear about 72 & 73 years being a problem chances those very minor issues were taken care of long ago if not they are a cheap simple update . Ran my 72 for over 15 yrs as a stock 74 and put well over 400,000 on her doing my own work with general tools . Bike made more 2500+ mi. roadtrips than I care to remember and never let me down including 9 trips to Sturgis . Put another 200,000 on her as an 88" motor .
Pay attention to the bike , do your maint. on a regular schedule and don't let little things become big ones a shovel will treat you good for a very long time .
Don't buy into the fear about 72 & 73 years being a problem chances those very minor issues were taken care of long ago if not they are a cheap simple update . Ran my 72 for over 15 yrs as a stock 74 and put well over 400,000 on her doing my own work with general tools . Bike made more 2500+ mi. roadtrips than I care to remember and never let me down including 9 trips to Sturgis . Put another 200,000 on her as an 88" motor .
Pay attention to the bike , do your maint. on a regular schedule and don't let little things become big ones a shovel will treat you good for a very long time .
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FLHS1990 (09-27-2023)
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if a shovel has been rebuilt in the last 10 years it will be every bit as reliable as a 10yo bike..kind of hard to compare apples to oranges.i have a 72 shovel,it was rebuilt in 03,because the shop i bought it from didnt put the piston wrist pin retainer in when they upgraded it to 80''.other then that i have never had to do anything to it, besides a few oil/plug changes and 1 tire in 7 years..chrome is worn on rocker boxes and oil leaks,but no problems,i would love to trade it for a softail in the same condition..1st pic it is pretty orig(1962)looking electraglide,right tank and rear fender needs finished.2nd pic i decided a wideglide is close to a softail,i have all parts but front 21 wheel.right tank and fenders need paint..
Last edited by j1mmy; 01-14-2011 at 11:29 PM.
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Hey panz4ever you and Skully make great points. I am really from the old school of thought as well. I like the newer bikes as far as convience but the old bikes I LOVE because they dont get lost in the crowd. I have actually found a 78 shovel FL complete but needs to be put together. I am going to go that route so I can know it inside and out. I have told my friends I will never own newer than an 08 and had i realized before buying my wifes 08 RK the changes done between 07-08 she would not have the bike she has but I got a killer deal on it.
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Personally, I think you are nuts. Seriously though, I know where you are coming from. When evos were new I rode shovels, had a couple of them. Since TC's have been out, I ride evos. If you want to stand out, grab a nice evo fxr or bagger. (a softail rarely stands out, because it seems like everyone has one). Now with an evo you will have something reliable that you wont have to wrench every weekend. I consider myself a pretty decent wrench, but I dont think you could ever make one as reliable as a decent evo. It's more than just the engine, it's the 4 speed tranny, the primary/starter setup, and the brakes, electrical, etc. If you absolutely have to buy a shovel, go with the last years, '81 up. They upgraded alot during those years. Big difference between an '82 and a '72 besides 10 years.
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Personally, I think you are nuts. Seriously though, I know where you are coming from. When evos were new I rode shovels, had a couple of them. Since TC's have been out, I ride evos. If you want to stand out, grab a nice evo fxr or bagger. (a softail rarely stands out, because it seems like everyone has one). Now with an evo you will have something reliable that you wont have to wrench every weekend. I consider myself a pretty decent wrench, but I dont think you could ever make one as reliable as a decent evo. It's more than just the engine, it's the 4 speed tranny, the primary/starter setup, and the brakes, electrical, etc. If you absolutely have to buy a shovel, go with the last years, '81 up. They upgraded alot during those years. Big difference between an '82 and a '72 besides 10 years.
Not that much of a wrench if couldn't keep up something as simple as a shovel up don't care what the year . Only trouble I've ever had with mine ( 28yrs and running ) has been self induced with too much happy hand and that includes many a long distance / high mile road trip . We could get into a LONG conversation about evo's they had more than their share of teething problems to boot , I've reworked a boot load of them .
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Not that much of a wrench if couldn't keep up something as simple as a shovel up don't care what the year . Only trouble I've ever had with mine ( 28yrs and running ) has been self induced with too much happy hand and that includes many a long distance / high mile road trip . We could get into a LONG conversation about evo's they had more than their share of teething problems to boot , I've reworked a boot load of them .