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Old 06-14-2019, 07:43 AM
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It's the Magnuson-Moss warranty act. No tractors or farm animals were harmed at the passing of this act.
It's a little know fact that the Massey Furgeson act lead to the Magnuson Moss act. A farmer, from Wisconsin, If I recall, took his Massey Furgeson tractor into the MF dealer for a repair. The warranty claim on thee repair was denied because the farmer used John Deer Oil, and an Farmall filter on his tractor, and then proceeded to use an Oliver plow to prep 640 acres of land for plantin. This lead to a really unpleasant confrontation, which prompted the passage of the even stronger Magnuson Moss warranty act.
 
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The warranty only covers things that don't break. Everything else is on you.
They will only do a recall if the government forces them, or 4.375% of the owners die as a result of a manufacturer defect.
As soon as someone figures out how to croak from an over-filled primary on an M8, we're golden.
 
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Old 06-14-2019, 09:11 AM
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HD's 2 year motorcycle warranty is governed by both state and Federal laws regarding street legal motor vehicles. HD warrants its bikes for 2 years. Assuming no material modifications were made the warranty covers all parts except those that wear like tires, bulbs, etc. or those identified in the maintenance schedule for replacement like spark plugs, brake fluids, etc. The warranty also covers workmanship in the manufacturing of the bike. As long as the bike is "street legal" HD is pretty much required to bound to remedy part and or function failures plus all labor costs involved. That assumes the owner did not add parts or modify anything that could have caused the failure. In that case HD would deny the claim. So if an owner replaces the cam with one HD has not approved of for the bike, a claim for engine damage would likely be denied. Also if a modification was made that rendered the bike as no longer street legal the entire two year warranty can be nullified. Same thing can happen with a automobile. But note that the above applies to the MOCO's warranty. If the HD dealer added the parts or made the mods then it's their ball to carry not HD's.
 
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I brought up the magnuson moss act in another thread and was reamed saying the motor company's lawyers are big than mine.
I know the defects and issues here are small compared to whatsvob the street but if I have any luck it's bad and just want to protect my wallet
 
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Old 06-14-2019, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Spider0408 View Post
HD's 2 year motorcycle warranty is governed by both state and Federal laws regarding street legal motor vehicles. HD warrants its bikes for 2 years. Assuming no material modifications were made the warranty covers all parts except those that wear like tires, bulbs, etc. or those identified in the maintenance schedule for replacement like spark plugs, brake fluids, etc. The warranty also covers workmanship in the manufacturing of the bike. As long as the bike is "street legal" HD is pretty much required to bound to remedy part and or function failures plus all labor costs involved. That assumes the owner did not add parts or modify anything that could have caused the failure. In that case HD would deny the claim. So if an owner replaces the cam with one HD has not approved of for the bike, a claim for engine damage would likely be denied. Also if a modification was made that rendered the bike as no longer street legal the entire two year warranty can be nullified. Same thing can happen with a automobile. But note that the above applies to the MOCO's warranty. If the HD dealer added the parts or made the mods then it's their ball to carry not HD's.
For the most part that is not true.

That assumes the owner did not add parts or modify anything that could have caused the failure. In that case HD would deny the claim. So if an owner replaces the cam with one HD has not approved of for the bike, a claim for engine damage would likely be denied.
There is actually a SEMA deal passed through Congress around 2001 or 2002, the MOCO has to work out a repair deal if a legal aftermarket part caused the failure. Cause of the failure has to be completely proven by the MOCO as well.

Also if a modification was made that rendered the bike as no longer street legal the entire two year warranty can be nullified.
Once again, not true, only the power train warranty can be voided for non-street legal additions.
 
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Old 06-14-2019, 11:42 AM
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We don't have the Magnuson act here in Canada. We also don't have a lemon act so we are at the mercy of any motorcycle or car dealer. It is buyer beware here in all cases. As for the Harley warranty they say that any wear part is not covered which means on a motorcycle any moving part is not covered as any part that moves will have wear on it
 
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Old 06-14-2019, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by slw210 View Post
For the most part that is not true.



There is actually a SEMA deal passed through Congress around 2001 or 2002, the MOCO has to work out a repair deal if a legal aftermarket part caused the failure. Cause of the failure has to be completely proven by the MOCO as well.

Once again, not true, only the power train warranty can be voided for non-street legal additions.
Well the next time you have a warranty claim that gets denied feel free to name the MOCO as the defendant and take them on in court. You will quickly find out that the burden of providing proof is ALWAYS on the plaintiff as well as all cost of doing so. HD doesn't have to prove anything and can challenge anything. That's how the legal system works in this country. I know.
Relatively few warranty claims are actually denied outright anyway. Most owners change pipes, handle bars, and other miscellaneous stuff and no one's going to say anything. But an owner's screw ups are easy to spot. Those are the problem ones.

Regarding HD's limited 2 year warranty this is what it says:

WARRANTY: Installation of Screamin’ Eagle® products and similar off-road or competition
products from other manufacturers, except some street-compliant offerings installed by
authorized Harley® dealers, may void your H-D® limited vehicle warranty. Installation of a
California performance kit on a 49-state model motorcycle or 49-state performance kit onto
a California model motorcycle will void the manufacturer’s warranty, as it will not result in a
street-compliant configuration.

There's nothing about just the power train in this statement. HD is just stating what "MAY" or
"WILL" void the limited warranty. So go ahead and install that supercharger. But when a drive belt
breaks good luck getting a new one installed under the warranty.
 

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