Picked up my '18 CVO Limited last night...brought her back in today for Rinehart Motopro 45's and a Power Vision - canned tune as she doesn't have enough miles on her yet to run it on the dyno. Left the dealer with the new pipes and tuner and took the longer way home. About 2 miles from the house she lost tons of power...let it sit at home to cool down and then sat her upright and let it idle for about 5 minutes while I changed some setting on the radio. Went for a test ride and it could barely get out of her own way pulling out of the driveway. **EDIT** I also saw that the oil was close to a quart low on the dipstick. ** I did not pull the CPS to see how much oil drained out. I figured that I had the bike less than 24 hours so the dealer needs to figure it out. At least they are being VERY helpful over the phone!

Called to the dealer and they confirm the symptoms sound like sumping. They'll be here in the morning to pick it up. Sucks as I was to leave out in the morning for a couple day 3 state ride....

On a side note - if they change the oil pump, etc, they already asked me about the adjustable push rods in case I do cams in the future to save labor. I'm all for it and told them that. Question - if I plan on staying with the Rineharts and Power Vision, no more, what is a good lower to mid range rpm cam to run (looking for more torque than HP)? Is it even worth upgrading the cam if I don't do much else?

Sucks....185 miles on the clock and already headed back in to the shop. I traded a '15 FLTRXS in with about 37k on her and she never had a problem....

 

 

 

They said they would. I told them when I bought the bike I didn't want to void anything, and this is the setup they recommended. Crossing my fingers they hold their word.

 

There's no way a Power Vision would cause sumping - that's ridiculous.

 

 

of course they are going to have to foot the bill..already really stupid and irresponsible of them to violate their contractual terms with the MOCO, a whole other level of stupid to engage them for support and opening themselves up to HUGE fines for said violations

 

The PowerVision won't cause sumping, but installing it did void the powertrain warranty.

I do not understand why anyone would run that risk, especially on a CVO. Buying a $40,000 bike and voiding the warranty before the first ride... That dealer was criminally negligent and this will cost them big. Harley is not going to pay out a penny of warranty support, any support will be coming out of this dealer's pocket.

 

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Btw, another HDF member talked to his service manager, and his estimate is that approximately 10% of all 117 M8 CVO's are exhibiting sumping.

 

These dealers are somehow getting away with this.Few weeks back i talked to my selling dealer about wanting to do stage 1 with the screaming eagle tuner and air cleaner but wasnt decided on slipons yet.They told me the se tuner was junk and their tuner/engine builder would not use it and said he will only use pv or thundermax. I told them i wanted to keep my warranty and they said no problem bring it here and no warranty issues. I said thanks but i do a lot of touring and didnt want issues on the road.