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Old 09-30-2018, 06:49 PM
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Default 117 Cvo Limited....2nd engine in 2000 miles

Im about to pull my hair out but i cant. Im bald. Im 58 years old been riding harleys since 1980.

i figured id treat myself to a new 2018 CVO Limited with the 117 C.I. engine. And i did. At 600 miles the oil pump sumped and bike overheated and died. Bike went to dealer. I went to Uber with my girl and went home.

Oil pump was changed for the "revised" oil pump and two weeks later i got my bike back.

The bike ran until 700 miles then the engine started to sound like it was coming apart. Back i go to dealer. This time the cam assembly bracket had cracked. They replaced both.

Why no recall or bulliten on this i dont know. They replaced it or them not sure with a "redesigned" bracket.
How there was a redesigned improved bracket in july when i just took delivery end of April i dont know.

On the dealers test of the brand new top end it overheated again at 13 miles. They also found the pistons scoring the walls of the cylinders. I requested a new engine from millwalkie. They said sorry. I begged. They said sorry.
i posted this story on the stockholders web site and 3 days later i had a new engine. Problem solved. No.

With new engine on 75 degree day riding 1 up the bike again overheated to 308 degrees and sumped. The bike was full of oil cold before i left the house. I was on the return leg of 200 mile day and the bike got sluggish on the highway.
i pulled over and checked the engine temp it was 308 degrees and there was no oil on the stick meaning at least a quart of oil was sumped and stuck up in the engine not able to find its way down to the pan.

Shes back at the dealer now and they said the cylinders are also scored again. They have a few 117's doing this and the fact that an engine replacement didnt fix this issue is concerning.

The bike will be down about 8 weeks in total since end of April.
I love this bike. It is the most powerfull bike ive ever had and the most gorgeous machine ever....but....it is unreliable as is the Factories ability to get to the root cause.

wish me luck...
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As most people here know, I feel your pain.
 
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Welcome to the forum and good luck dealing with the motor company!
 
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Blows but keep us posted. Very curious what happens here going forward.
 
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Who knows what's really going on behind the scenes with so many new engines. But it's not much of a stretch to consider disgruntled employees at the plants that are looking at potential future layoffs. Otherwise HD is having above average quality control issues.
 
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You do realize that NJ has very strong Lemon Laws that include motorcycles, don't you?
When I had a problem with my Pontiac G8 that the dealer could not fix I used 1800lemonlaw and GM ended up paying me $3500 and then paid my lawyers.
It is easy, they will guide you step by step.
 
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Welcome to the forum and good luck dealing with the motor company!
And, with only 2 posts to his credit, the upcoming attack from the M8 Ostriches
 
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Originally Posted by Pensioncracker
This time the cam assembly bracket had cracked.

i pulled over and checked the engine temp it was 308 degrees and there was no oil on the stick meaning at least a quart of oil was sumped and stuck up in the engine not able to find its way down to the pan.
Cam Assembly bracket? Do you mean cam plate? If so, I've never heard of one "cracking".

FYI... Oil collects in the bottom of the engine case or 'sump'. It doesn't get "stuck up in the engine" during sumping.

Hope everything works out for you.
 
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Originally Posted by Dynamick
And, with only 2 posts to his credit, the upcoming attack from the M8 Ostriches
Ain't that the truth.

OP, I hope you get it sorted out with a minimal amount of downtime and pain.

I always said HD could paint a turd orange & black and sell it. Somebody at corporate must have heard me.
 

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I'm sure the diehards here will accuse you of being 100% in the wrong, a crackpot, lawsuit happy POS when in reality it's HD that is to blame and w/o a doubt get a legite lawyer sir.
 
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