Touring Models Road King, Road King Custom, Road King Classic, Road Glide, Street Glide, Electra Glide, Electra Glide Classic, and Electra Glide Ultra Classic bikes.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

What may be the real cause of HD's problems

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 05-25-2019, 10:07 AM
cwsharp's Avatar
cwsharp
cwsharp is offline
Stellar HDF Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Utah
Posts: 2,371
Received 151 Likes on 111 Posts
Default What may be the real cause of HD's problems

I have been riding for 56 years. I do long rides whenever I can... this summer I was going to ride the Pacific Coast Highway from San Diego to Seattle... and for the first time in my life I cut off the ride. On the first day in Utah a &(*^@)*&% tourist in an RV passed three trucks (apparently frustrated with road construction that had a 1 mile long pile of cars held up waiting for the other mile to clear the construction) and tried to kill me head on. I rode the white line on the road edge and managed to keep the bike upright and avoid the idiot. The second day I had to drop the bike due to a road condition in AZ where gravel coated with oil "looks like" paving. Throughout the ride road conditions on Interstates and State Roads, and bad drivers and traffic loads were a continual harassment. The wind was 25-35 with gusts to 55 and was continual every day. The West US was having "abnormal" spring weather every day but one. I gave up near L.A. and headed back to Provo in the same conditions. Even on the 2 days that the sun made an appearance the wind was borderline unsafe for riding directly into it (70 + 55 = 125 mph... a hurricane). On the way back to home I hit rain, sleet, and snow... and it was mid May!

I ride by myself and the ride is the enjoyment... it's a mental vacation. Unfortunately, these conditions eliminate this reason to ride... so chalking this up to a "riding experience" would be fine except it is an abnormal riding experience that seems to be getting worse every year. I don't know how you attract new riders when these are the more normal riding conditions rather than the exception. Maybe I will start taking climate change more seriously after this ride... nothing can be done about road conditions and traffic law violations I don't think.
 
  #2  
Old 05-25-2019, 10:58 AM
Brewmany's Avatar
Brewmany
Brewmany is offline
Elite HDF Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Prior Lake, MN
Posts: 4,214
Received 657 Likes on 435 Posts
Default

New riders won't have that insight. I think there are bigger issues with why new blood are not as interested in buying bikes.

But......I do understand your observations:
Last summer we took a two week jaunt from my home (Minneapolis suburb), thru North Dakota, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, South Dakota, and Iowa.

We encountered road construction everywhere. Even in the middle of Nowhere, MT. Ten miles of the most torn up asphalt I've ever had to ride.
Ever try riding thru Yellowstone on a busy day? Bumper to Bumper stop and go for hours on end. Thought my left hand was going to fall off.
But we did get up close and personal with a few bison......

We got very lucky on weather- only a few very isolated rain showers.
 
  #3  
Old 05-25-2019, 11:04 AM
kickstartfan's Avatar
kickstartfan
kickstartfan is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: nw Ark
Posts: 858
Received 284 Likes on 190 Posts
Default

Perhaps it is time to buy a Winnebago.
You are lucky to be alive. Stop now and enjoy the comfort of traveling in a cage.
 

Last edited by kickstartfan; 05-25-2019 at 11:16 AM.
The following users liked this post:
rubberfrog (05-25-2019)
  #4  
Old 05-25-2019, 11:27 AM
oldhippie's Avatar
oldhippie
oldhippie is offline
Outstanding HDF Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ashby, Ma
Posts: 2,922
Received 114 Likes on 67 Posts
Default

I do many 200~300+ mile day rides, and a couple overnights each year all around New England. I stay off highways for the most part, except to use them to skirt the cities I might need to pass by. Between crazy cell phone addicts, and wingnut drivers that think their "meeting they're late for" because they are the worlds most important sales guy or some such ****. Let's not forget Odessy driving soccer moms, they're as wacked out and beaned up on Dunkins as they can get.

Back roads all the way, no rides to Sturgis, or Myrtle Beach or anyplace I might need to take Interstates, and deal with a weeks worth of weather. That's just no fun.

I do know plenty of guys that sold their bikes due to the whacked out drivers that have almost killed them.
 
  #5  
Old 05-25-2019, 01:08 PM
Cygnusx51's Avatar
Cygnusx51
Cygnusx51 is offline
Ultimate HDF Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Olean, NY
Posts: 5,691
Received 1,647 Likes on 1,076 Posts
Default

I encounter terrible riding conditions and trips that don’t go as planned but there’s been many more that were great rides and fun times. You just have to power through it!
 
  #6  
Old 05-25-2019, 01:32 PM
e6fmf's Avatar
e6fmf
e6fmf is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Parris Island
Posts: 832
Received 125 Likes on 85 Posts
Default Harley

Prices. From bike to parts to service$$$$. Younger folks don't make enough and if they do, have a different mindset.
 
  #7  
Old 05-25-2019, 02:23 PM
TheGrandPoohBah's Avatar
TheGrandPoohBah
TheGrandPoohBah is offline
Extreme HDF Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Mountain Top, Alabama
Posts: 14,731
Received 2,523 Likes on 1,420 Posts
Default

I don't care for riding in heavy traffic, and avoid interstates all I can. I'm more of a back roads kind of guy.
 
  #8  
Old 05-25-2019, 02:37 PM
tnriverluver's Avatar
tnriverluver
tnriverluver is offline
Stellar HDF Member
Join Date: May 2015
Location: West Tennessee
Posts: 2,902
Received 442 Likes on 363 Posts
Default

Up until 2010 I had a group of 40 bikes that we did a dinner ride every Thurs night taking fun backroads anywhere from 50 to 100 miles to delicious hole in the wall restaurants. Everyone always had a great time and many laughs always were on the menu. Today only two of us still ride and of the two I'm the only one that actually rides regularly and on long trips even though I myself am battling a serious and very painful health problem. All the rest sold their bikes and gave it up completely because of cell phones, age, health, etc.
 
  #9  
Old 05-25-2019, 03:57 PM
t. sawyer's Avatar
t. sawyer
t. sawyer is offline
Road Warrior
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Eastern N.C.
Posts: 1,441
Received 48 Likes on 45 Posts
Smile

nothing can be done about traffic conditions. hell you dang sure can't do anything about the weather either. climate change. yep, been changing from the first day there was weather. Times have changed. can't do anything about that either. we adapt or not and go the way of the dinosaure .can't spell that word for some reason today. do the best you can sir and keep plugging along. I too have come back home when it seemed like the world was out to get me. I am sorry your ride was not fun. heres to you.
kroozeabout.
 
The following 2 users liked this post by t. sawyer:
737driver (05-25-2019), Cygnusx51 (05-25-2019)
  #10  
Old 05-25-2019, 07:14 PM
AussieDog's Avatar
AussieDog
AussieDog is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,047
Received 698 Likes on 317 Posts
Default

I'm in the middle of a trip right now from Washington to Colorado and back. Monday I couldn't make it over Vail Pass due to snow and ice. Left the bike in Vail at a new friend's garage, rented a car, drove through a blizzard, and visited the grand kids for 4 days. Picked up the bike today and heading back west. Close calls are no fun, thats why I added LED lights to my bike. Doesn't solve the problem, but helps. I think those that are complaining about Harley prices holding back new riders are completely missing the point. When I started riding as a16 year old in 1971 it was the height of the 'motorcycle craze'. Of the kids I knew, maybe 10% at most had and interest in motorcycles. Today, maybe 1 in 50 of those who had an interest still ride. Actually, me and a cousin are the only ones I know of. Back in 1971 they could of given Harleys away, I wouldn't of been seen dead on one then. Today its not a price issue at the core. Today if you are young and want to ride there are a lot of great fun bikes out there that are well under $10k. In fact, some good ones under $6k. The core issue is this- they are interested in other things. That's the deal. The world changed and we have to accept it. Now go ride and enjoy our secret.
 
The following 3 users liked this post by AussieDog:
737driver (05-25-2019), Don Michigan (05-25-2019), ronbeejer (05-27-2019)


Quick Reply: What may be the real cause of HD's problems



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:16 PM.