Braking Issue - Front Tire Lock Up
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Braking Issue - Front Tire Lock Up
After many years of sportbike riding, I picked up my first HD - 1998 FXSTC that just turned 8,000 miles. I've put about 300 miles on it so far and love the bike. But I encountered my first aggressive brake situation this past weekend and now I'm concerned.
Long story short, I had to brake hard, put definitely shy of a panic stop and both tires locked up. The rear was not a surprise, but the front was (road was dry and application of brakes was firm but smooth). Upon returning home, I checked the tires and they have plenty of tread, with no cracking, but it appears as if they are original. Needless to say, they're getting replaced asap, but in researching front brake lock up issues, I read that sometimes on these bikes the front fender comes in contact with the tire and causes is to lock up. Is this common and is there anyway to check? I see no signs of contact on either the fender or tire.
Long story short, I had to brake hard, put definitely shy of a panic stop and both tires locked up. The rear was not a surprise, but the front was (road was dry and application of brakes was firm but smooth). Upon returning home, I checked the tires and they have plenty of tread, with no cracking, but it appears as if they are original. Needless to say, they're getting replaced asap, but in researching front brake lock up issues, I read that sometimes on these bikes the front fender comes in contact with the tire and causes is to lock up. Is this common and is there anyway to check? I see no signs of contact on either the fender or tire.
#2
You're not on a sport bike anymore. I'd say you problem is that you are riding a very different bike with very different handling traits. Take your time and learn your bike. Find a big parking lot without obstructions and do some practicing; braking, slow/tight turns, swerves,...
Enjoy!
#3
Where are you finding this information? Have you looked at how the front fender is mounted? How is braking going to cause the fender to contact the tire and lock up the wheel?
You're not on a sport bike anymore. I'd say you problem is that you are riding a very different bike with very different handling traits. Take your time and learn your bike. Find a big parking lot without obstructions and do some practicing; braking, slow/tight turns, swerves,...
Enjoy!
You're not on a sport bike anymore. I'd say you problem is that you are riding a very different bike with very different handling traits. Take your time and learn your bike. Find a big parking lot without obstructions and do some practicing; braking, slow/tight turns, swerves,...
Enjoy!
#4
Well its good to hear that you handled a front wheel lockup correctly, otherwise I am sure you would be telling us about how you laid her down. Like has been said you need to put some time in on the bike and practice the feel of hard braking with her, any front fender coming in contact with the wheel would likely rip the fender off, and the following results I don't even want to think about. Don't know how it could ever happen, go look at how the fender is mounted it moves with the wheel and lower shock segment.
#5
Harleys will brake differently than sport bikes, because they have a much lower center of gravity, and less weight transfer to the front when braking. The braking limit tends to be found when the font tire loses traction, rather than when the back tire comes off the ground (a stoppie).
You could put a stickier sportbike tire on the front, if your wheel is a size that will take one.
You could put a stickier sportbike tire on the front, if your wheel is a size that will take one.
#6
Thanks...It wasn't pretty and involved swerving into the oncoming lane (which was clear thankfully) in order to avoid getting personal with the tailgate of an F150.
#7
First of all, I'm glad you weren't injured. Also, I'm not blaming you or suggesting that in any way. But, I have not heard of a fender causing a tire to lock up. Also, tires don't lock up themselves, the brakes cause it. Brakes are, by design, controlled by the person holding the handlebars. You may not feel that it was a panic stop but you likely hit both brakes hard enough to cause them to lock up.
Is it possible you had to avoid the tailgate because you were following too closely?
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#9
The front fender having any involvement seems unlikely based upon the feedback I'm getting here. But I figured it was worth posting since at least one rider had it happen.
Regardless of the actual cause (poor equipment, rider error or combination of both) I intend on replacing the tires, since I'm quite sure after 18 years, they can't be fully trusted.