2018 Breakout
#61
100% agree. Personally I feel that the 2017 is the best looking Breakout out of all the years. It was the look of the black and edge polished turbine wheels that hooked me bad. Could not stop thinking about the bike after seeing one in vivid black at the dealer, and pulled the trigger a few loooooong weeks after. No regrets.
#62
Certainly not a bad choice, but I've just been studying the side shots of both the 2017 and the new 2018, side by side on screen. To say most people couldn't spot the difference is putting it mildly. Ok, there are some relatively minor ones, but let's consider the differences:-
The new tank is smaller, but that cannot be seen from the photos. They look the same, except the 2018 is unadorned with chromy bits on the top, apart from the filler cap.
The exhausts are different. Same basic muffler shape, but unsurprisingly the pipes have slightly different routing (helps to prevent burning your leg apparently) and they're more staggered on the 2017. The new ones actually appear to be the same as on the new Fat Boy, just different colouring. Makes sense from a production point of view and in conjunction with the new slimmer primary chaincase suggests that mid foot controls and even footboards would now be possible which IMO is VERY good news.
Headlight. Not obviously different from the side view, although of course very different from the front. Does it affect the overall personality of the bike. Nope.
Seat height is apparently 0.4" higher for 2018. Impossible to see the difference.
Rear fender. Looks identical to me. Same shape, same clearance to wheel and even the support bars at the sides look pretty much the same (minor re-shaping at the front).
Smooth shiny shape behind engine, under front of seat. Previously apparently the oil tank, now just a cover. Big deal. Actually on the new bike this won't get hot and so no longer add to the left leg cooking of previous bikes. Sounds good to me.
Obviously the rear suspension is completely different. Hard to see? Impossible I'd say. Study the swingarm shape (what you can see) and you may spot some insignificant minor variations, but you have to look really hard. Is the new system a better engineered solution? Undoubtedly and by all accounts, works much better. So all good then.
Then there's the wheels. Sure, a new style for 2018, but it's not the first time the Breakout wheel style has changed. Either learn to love the new wheels, or change them.
As I said before, 99.9% of the population couldn't tell the difference. Some of us can, but so what. Apart from the obvious technical improvements, I cannot really state categorically that either bike is 'styled' better than the other. They are in fact the exact same style, just with some minor variations. To state that one is fabulous and the other ugly as sin is simply nonsense. They are virtually identical in looks so why knock the new one?
Me, I want the M8 engine and all else has to fit in with that. Other owners, not so much, in which case, if you love the bike you have, don't change. There's so little difference it would be huge expense for little or no gain. So unless you must have the M8 engine (like me), be happy with your current Breakout. It's still just as great a bike as when you bought it.
The new tank is smaller, but that cannot be seen from the photos. They look the same, except the 2018 is unadorned with chromy bits on the top, apart from the filler cap.
The exhausts are different. Same basic muffler shape, but unsurprisingly the pipes have slightly different routing (helps to prevent burning your leg apparently) and they're more staggered on the 2017. The new ones actually appear to be the same as on the new Fat Boy, just different colouring. Makes sense from a production point of view and in conjunction with the new slimmer primary chaincase suggests that mid foot controls and even footboards would now be possible which IMO is VERY good news.
Headlight. Not obviously different from the side view, although of course very different from the front. Does it affect the overall personality of the bike. Nope.
Seat height is apparently 0.4" higher for 2018. Impossible to see the difference.
Rear fender. Looks identical to me. Same shape, same clearance to wheel and even the support bars at the sides look pretty much the same (minor re-shaping at the front).
Smooth shiny shape behind engine, under front of seat. Previously apparently the oil tank, now just a cover. Big deal. Actually on the new bike this won't get hot and so no longer add to the left leg cooking of previous bikes. Sounds good to me.
Obviously the rear suspension is completely different. Hard to see? Impossible I'd say. Study the swingarm shape (what you can see) and you may spot some insignificant minor variations, but you have to look really hard. Is the new system a better engineered solution? Undoubtedly and by all accounts, works much better. So all good then.
Then there's the wheels. Sure, a new style for 2018, but it's not the first time the Breakout wheel style has changed. Either learn to love the new wheels, or change them.
As I said before, 99.9% of the population couldn't tell the difference. Some of us can, but so what. Apart from the obvious technical improvements, I cannot really state categorically that either bike is 'styled' better than the other. They are in fact the exact same style, just with some minor variations. To state that one is fabulous and the other ugly as sin is simply nonsense. They are virtually identical in looks so why knock the new one?
Me, I want the M8 engine and all else has to fit in with that. Other owners, not so much, in which case, if you love the bike you have, don't change. There's so little difference it would be huge expense for little or no gain. So unless you must have the M8 engine (like me), be happy with your current Breakout. It's still just as great a bike as when you bought it.
#64
and if you don't like it, or the size, then why would you want one. just because the engine is a little bigger. unless you're going to the drag strip, i'd say your 103 is plenty
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#65
I can't speak to her stage 5 setup, but the engine torq bump on my 17 RGS compared to my stage 2 103 breakout is exceptionally noticeable. To the point where there's nothing I want to do to the engine besides make the thing louder.
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These 114 cost only $1500 from factory if you upgrade the 103 to 110 stage 5 like i did it cost 3x as much and i dont think Harley will honor their warranty when something goes wrong with the stage 5 - 3 of my friends are in this predicament where Harley refuses to honor their warranty because the bikes were modded !
This is why i want to get out of mine and into the 114 so Harley wont be able to jack us. The sad thing is Harley dealership were the ones that carried out the engine upgrade on my friends bikes (2 Harley Dyna Low Rider S and 1 Breakout CVO, went from 110 to 117ci) just like i got mine done at the dealership but mine went from 103 to 110ci.
This is why i want to get out of mine and into the 114 so Harley wont be able to jack us. The sad thing is Harley dealership were the ones that carried out the engine upgrade on my friends bikes (2 Harley Dyna Low Rider S and 1 Breakout CVO, went from 110 to 117ci) just like i got mine done at the dealership but mine went from 103 to 110ci.
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This is why Laidlaw Harley will only buy 114 bikes to put on their showroom floor.
Matt said he is only going to buy the 114 because it costs only $1500 to $1700 to get the 114 - he thinks the 107 will be hard to sell !
Matt said he is only going to buy the 114 because it costs only $1500 to $1700 to get the 114 - he thinks the 107 will be hard to sell !
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