First Heritage Darksider~afaik
I'd start it at 35-36 psi and ride it a couple weeks to get used to it, then play up or down in 2 lb increments. Chances are the 35 is going to be your sweet spot for that bike.
Saw my fourth big day in the cones, but this time with the Vredestein Comtrac instead of the Pirelli Night Dragon.
I'm happy to report that there is no difference whatsoever in ANY of the exercises, including cone weave, speed weave, circles down to 18', full lock takeoffs, keyhole, offset weaves and the intersection.
36 psi and no problems whatsoever.
I expected the speed weave to be difficult and it DID take a second run at it to get the bike to do right. I simply had to do what we have to do on the road; press slightly harder to countersteer. After that, it felt nailed to the course.
I'm happy to report that there is no difference whatsoever in ANY of the exercises, including cone weave, speed weave, circles down to 18', full lock takeoffs, keyhole, offset weaves and the intersection.
36 psi and no problems whatsoever.
I expected the speed weave to be difficult and it DID take a second run at it to get the bike to do right. I simply had to do what we have to do on the road; press slightly harder to countersteer. After that, it felt nailed to the course.
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just pulled the trigger on the Comtrac, will take a few days to get here 
the guy on the phone said that they sell ALOT of these tires, but have NEVER sold a set of two / four, they all sell one at a time
the guy on the phone said that they sell ALOT of these tires, but have NEVER sold a set of two / four, they all sell one at a time
Last edited by NorCal Dog; Sep 8, 2010 at 08:13 PM.
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damn Quad,,, that Comtrac has some SERIOUS tread depth,, not a bad looking tire at all
also just got in the new front, an Avon Azarro, so there will be new radials on both the front & rear
hope to get 'em on before Street Vibrations up in Reno, rolling up there with a couple of friends on friday/ 24th & playing music on saturday / 25th
also just got in the new front, an Avon Azarro, so there will be new radials on both the front & rear
hope to get 'em on before Street Vibrations up in Reno, rolling up there with a couple of friends on friday/ 24th & playing music on saturday / 25th
Last edited by NorCal Dog; Sep 8, 2010 at 08:14 PM.
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Jeez..............Running car tires got lots of folks hurt back before we learned better. Maybe on a dragster......Not on the street. There is no way a tire with that profile is safe running around on the sidewall.
But theres always been someone who knew someone whos' second cousins daddy-in-law did it for years and never had a problem.................................Of course ever getting to actually meet the guy to verify the story........just never seens to happen.
But Hey!.........................Good luck to ya.
But theres always been someone who knew someone whos' second cousins daddy-in-law did it for years and never had a problem.................................Of course ever getting to actually meet the guy to verify the story........just never seens to happen.
But Hey!.........................Good luck to ya.
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You're either a troll or totally uneducated. I crossed over after four months of intensive study on the subject on 3 darkside forums, internet searches and personally talking to guys with them.
There are TWO things that 99.9% of ALL the thousands of darksiders say:
1.) I wish I'd done this years ago, and
2.) I'll never go back to a MT.
Another thing that is pretty much universal is that virtually every naysayer hasn't ridden one. It's easy to sit in your armchair and surmise what you THINK you know, since you've swallowed the industry cool-aid, but it's another thing to mount one and hit the twisties throwing sparks.
~ I know what my lean angle is with a stock tire and I know how much more I have now, and how much grippier and faster the bike is.
~ Then let's add that braking is 5x better in back, so my stopping distance is much less - you can eat bumpers if you like.
~ My tire grips in the RAIN as well as yours does in the DRY, and that's a FACT!
~ Mine will outlast yours about 3/1.
~ NO ONE is riding on the sidewalls. The tire flexes and keeps half the tread on the deck - that's about 30% more than your MT, by the way.
~ I can feel the front MT banging bumps that disappear in back: the CT absorbs them, and we're more comfy on long trips; less Monkeybutt.
~ The CT is steel belted, compared to your nylon, or polymer or whatnot.
~ The tires of yesteryear blew out because they didn't have modern technology. NO properly inflated CT's have blown on bikes this decade.
~ My tire irritates smug people.
There are TWO things that 99.9% of ALL the thousands of darksiders say:
1.) I wish I'd done this years ago, and
2.) I'll never go back to a MT.
Another thing that is pretty much universal is that virtually every naysayer hasn't ridden one. It's easy to sit in your armchair and surmise what you THINK you know, since you've swallowed the industry cool-aid, but it's another thing to mount one and hit the twisties throwing sparks.
~ I know what my lean angle is with a stock tire and I know how much more I have now, and how much grippier and faster the bike is.
~ Then let's add that braking is 5x better in back, so my stopping distance is much less - you can eat bumpers if you like.
~ My tire grips in the RAIN as well as yours does in the DRY, and that's a FACT!
~ Mine will outlast yours about 3/1.
~ NO ONE is riding on the sidewalls. The tire flexes and keeps half the tread on the deck - that's about 30% more than your MT, by the way.
~ I can feel the front MT banging bumps that disappear in back: the CT absorbs them, and we're more comfy on long trips; less Monkeybutt.
~ The CT is steel belted, compared to your nylon, or polymer or whatnot.
~ The tires of yesteryear blew out because they didn't have modern technology. NO properly inflated CT's have blown on bikes this decade.
~ My tire irritates smug people.
Last edited by Quadancer; Sep 9, 2010 at 08:41 AM.
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From: 415/707
put the new front & rear on this morning
just put 30mi on,, initial thoughts,,, TOTALLY AWESOME
rides like a totally different bike with the combination of the CT on the rear along with the lower profile sport touring radial on the front
the steering used to be sluggish at best & it felt like when i'd do a left or right 90deg turn, the front would just kinda flop into the turn,,,, not anymore,, front is very crisp & responsive
the Comtrac is also very responsive, altho i'm taking it very easy initially, & has zero adverse characteristics in handling. & the combination of the two is VERY STABLE on grooved slabs, which is a huge bonus
currently running 38psi front / 36psi rear but i'm sure i'll play with pressures a bit
Last edited by NorCal Dog; Sep 10, 2010 at 07:11 PM.