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Old 06-09-2019, 04:14 AM
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40000 miles and every now and then I am starting to feel the odd slip under a heavy right wrist.
So looking for upgrade options...
Am thinking of the Energy One...but spring choice..15% or 25% stronger spring and what is the difference..

If there are other options as well I am interested to hear people's opinions on other clutches too
 
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Old 06-09-2019, 04:40 AM
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Seems like really low miles to need a new clutch unless you have a stump puller of a built motor. What type and year of bike are we talking about? Hydro clutch or cable? If cable are you certain it was adjusted correctly at the last time? How many miles ago was the last adjustment? What type of fluid are you running in the primary, and have you always run that? Any modifications to the stock clutch, such as an extra plate or heavier spring?
 
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Old 06-09-2019, 04:59 AM
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I used the energy one extra plate kit with heavy duty spring last year. I love it. Word of caution......use their recommendation of B&M Trick shift trans fluid in the primary and when doing the initial adjustment only back out the rod adjustment 1/4 turn instead of a half as recommended by Harley
 
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Assume your talking Sportsters; from the 2013 or even the 2015 genuine Harley Worksop manuals it’s always been “adjust and then back off a Quarter turn”.
Maybe older models vary in this.
 
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I have the HD SE performance clutch that increases the clutch plate surface area 13%, eliminates the "spring plate" and includes a 10% stronger clutch spring.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/stor...nce-clutch-kit

The clutch pull was noticeably heavier at first than the stock 1200 clutch spring.


I believe starting in ~2004 the 883 uses a lighter clutch spring than the 1200 models from the factory.
So you would notice more difference in pull than on a 1200 model.

Clutch Spring options:
1991-later Sportsters

Screamin’ Eagle HD-style Clutch Spring
  1. 350lbs - 10% Stronger Than Stock 1200 Clutch Spring (SE Clutch Spring 37949-98A)
Energy One HD-style Clutch Spring
  1. ???lbs - 15% Stronger Than Stock 1200 Clutch Spring (BT15)
  2. ???lbs - 25% Stronger Than Stock 1200 Clutch Spring (BT25)
Barnett HD-style Clutch Spring
  1. 360lbs MT-81 - 10% Stronger Than Stock 1200 Clutch Spring (502-00-01081)
  2. 400lbs MT-77 - 25% Stronger Than Stock 1200 Clutch Spring (502-00-01077)
 
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My bike has around 22,000 miles on it and I would like to replace the clutch just for peace of mind. Probably next year.

From what I've read on here, Screaming Eagle and Energy One can squeal while accelerating. Barnett clutches do not squeal, so they get my vote. The only thing I am not sure of yet is kevlar or carbon fiber.
 
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from the 2013 or even the 2015 genuine Harley Worksop manuals it’s always been "adjust and then back off a Quarter turn".
It is the same for 2008 bikes as well.

Remove hex lockplate with attached spring (3) from flats
of adjusting screw assembly (8). Turn adjusting screw
counterclockwise until resistance is felt. Back off adjusting
screw 1/4 turn.
 
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Originally Posted by BensonUK
40000 miles and every now and then I am starting to feel the odd slip under a heavy right wrist.
So looking for upgrade options...
Am thinking of the Energy One...but spring choice..15% or 25% stronger spring and what is the difference..

If there are other options as well I am interested to hear people's opinions on other clutches too
Before you spend any money, service it! If necessary dismantle your clutch to see the condition of the plates and especially the odd one, the 'spring plate'. I'm running the stock clutch on my 1990 Glide, with an S&S 107" and well over 100/100, the only mods being a heavier spring and, recently, a set of Barnett Kevlar plates. Ya don't need anything more than that, unless you have a seriously upgraded Sporty!
 
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You got 40,000 miles out of your original clutch, have you done any high performance mods that warrant a heavier duty clutch?

If you haven't changed things other than say a stage one kit, why put up with the heavier clutch pull of a heavy duty clutch and spring?

I had the spring plate rattling a little bit, pulled the clutch apart and the friction disks measured well within specs, so I just added the extra plates and got rid of the spring pack. Now my clutch squeaks as it engages. I'm about ready to just buy a new spring plate and get rid of the additional plates I put in it. The stock clutch works just fine.
 
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Originally Posted by VAFish
You got 40,000 miles out of your original clutch, have you done any high performance mods that warrant a heavier duty clutch?

If you haven't changed things other than say a stage one kit, why put up with the heavier clutch pull of a heavy duty clutch and spring?

I had the spring plate rattling a little bit, pulled the clutch apart and the friction disks measured well within specs, so I just added the extra plates and got rid of the spring pack. Now my clutch squeaks as it engages. I'm about ready to just buy a new spring plate and get rid of the additional plates I put in it. The stock clutch works just fine.
There is a better way to go if you want to get rid of the squeal, the first friction plate can be replaced with the three XR1200/Buell XB parts shown on the left side of the photo and the spring plate is replaced by two steels and a friction as you have already done. Did this on my bike and it works great, also had a VERY annoying squeal when I only eliminated the spring plate. Zero squeal now and clutch takeup is smooth...

 

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