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Shifting without the clutch?

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Old 12-21-2017, 05:00 AM
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CHarley loves this....
I had a fourth gear out of a BMW twin like that, some years ago.....
 
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I always use the clutch. This allows me to pay more attention to the road and other drivers.
 
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I shift without the clutch quite frequently and in 200,000 miles had no issues with the transmission or belt.

I always use to start out or come to a complete stop, and use it most of the time when going from 2st to 2nd or 2nd to first. Other than that I mostly don't
 
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Might try the MPS. Think DynoJet offers a quick shift option
on their Power Commander V too.

http://www.mpsracing.com/products/MPS/quickshift.asp

http://www.powercommander.com/powerc...on_module.aspx

hope this helps,

T.
 
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Originally Posted by cacomly
I shift without the clutch quite frequently and in 200,000 miles had no issues with the transmission or belt.

I always use to start out or come to a complete stop, and use it most of the time when going from 2st to 2nd or 2nd to first. Other than that I mostly don't
I’m right with you. Coming from my racing car days I learned really soon how to shift a racing gearbox without the clutch, which was for getting out of the pits and, if by choice, downshifting.
These Harley gearboxes have basically the same design as a racing box...dog ring shifting with no sychros, so with the understanding of what is needed to get from one gear to another, (how to unload the dogrings to allow it to move to the next gear) you can learn to be smooth and precise up shifting and downshifting.
The key to being really smooth at clutchless upshifting is know how little roll-off of the twistgrip it takes to release the dogs to move to the next gear. Smoothest shift is also the fastest manual shift. With practice you can literally ride the bike around in 3rd-6th gears never using the clutch and no one would notice.
If you want to learn to be a smooth clutchless shifter, pay attention to how much you pull in the clutch when shifting and work toward reducing the amount of travel or pull on the handlever to accomplish the upshift shift. You will soon find you need not pull in the lever much at all to shift. You should develop a rythym in the hand throttle rolloff to the foot lift pressure to upshift and get back to intended acceleration rate.
No need to practice this while hauling ***! You can practice this easily just riding around in low traffic areas where you can practice the techniques necessary to be “smooth”. That’s the challenge for sure but very rewarding when mastered.
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When I feel Sporty, I don't use the clutch. That includes on my Kawi 900c, my 17' Street Glide, and every other HD iv'e owned.
 
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