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Old 12-07-2017, 03:24 PM
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Having some confusion on what tire to get, as I am on a rear tire change time. I want this on a 195/60r16 tire (09 electra glide), and have seen some use an H rated tire, some a V rated tire, with some saying the H is too soft on the sidewalks, and the V is better. So since I see (in forums and on the tire database) both tires used, anyone have any advice on a V or H or don’t matter?

Right now the tires I was looking at are the Kuhmo Ecsta PA31, Yokohama avid ascend. I see the Dunlop 5000, but at $184, I might as well stick to a motorcycle tire.

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I've been on ct's for 12 years and have always run H rated, not as an alternative to a V just never needed more than H. I've run the SP 5000, General Alta max, Turanza and more, the one I seem to like the best has been Yokohama Avid Ascend 195/60/16 and will buy again. It fits well, rides, grips and wears great and is not too expensive. Don't know if V rated tires have stiffer side walls but that isn't necessarily a good thing as you need the side wall to flex to keep a decent traction foot print on the road. You also have the choice to run a taller or smaller tire to change gearing a bit for cruising or torque. As for sticking to a mt tire that's fine also, I run ct's for extreme rain traction, braking, better ride,easy repair and long wear not needing to change on a long trip along with more stability pulling a trailer. In pics below mt Avon 180/55/18 CVO wheel I run only got 4,000 on rear, stock wheel has the Yoko on it and has 15,000 miles only half worn. If you want to try a ct then the Yoko Avid Ascend would be a good tire .
 
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Do you have any issues with speed wobbling or anything using that tire? Do you ride solo or two up? What are your pressures?

Sorry so many questions, just want to do this right.
 
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I'm currently running the "Yokohama ENVigor All-Season Tire - 205/60R16 92V" that I purchased from Amazon on my Street Glide. The link is below so you can see the tread design:
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I have no wobbling whatsoever regardless of the speed I'm traveling. I also have a few ounces of balance beads/dyna beads in the tire itself. I ride solo since most guys don't like riding on the back with a woman at the controls. My air pressure is set at 38# which works well for me. But truthfully, you will have to play with the air pressure to find what works best for you.

The tire grips well especially in the twisties.

If you haven't done this yet, you may want to change out the air valve to one that is either a 45 or 90 degree. It'll make it a lot easier to adjust the air pressure. Also if your going to use the balance beads, put those in before you seat the tire. Inserting them through the valve stem is next to impossible.
 
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:35 PM
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Thank you for responding.
That's a nice looking tire. Does the larger size affect your torque? Feel sluggish?

I have used the balance beads, and yes, the first time I put them through the tire valve...Big mistake!! I use Ride On, now.

I already have the 90* stem, I got really tired of trying to get a chuck on the stem. I bought these:
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I can't say I really noticed a difference in performance, but then I don't race or do the jackrabbit starts. The low end as well as the top end seem pretty much the same as using OEM tires..

The reason I went with the taller tire was to match the height of the OEM tire. That way the speedometer is within a mile or two of being accurate. (compared to my GPS) The tire is probably the widest you can go without it rubbing the right side of the fender (I cant stick my finger up between the fender and tire on that side) and is really close to rubbing the belt on the left side. (just a couple of credit cards will fit between the two)

I used this tool to determine the size tire for my bike. After playing with the numbers, I looked for a tire that would match the size I wanted in height as well as width for the necessary clearance. That tool will also let you know the difference in speedometer readings for whatever tire you enter. Do the OEM for the first entry, then whichever size CT you might want for the second entry.
https://tiresize.com/comparison/

With the tread, I decided to go with one that was directional instead of going bidirectional though really I doubt it makes much of a difference,
 
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I used the calculator you provided, the 195/60R16 is identical to my stock 180/65-16. While I was looking at the Yoko you have, I came across this, 195/60R16 Michelin energy saver tire. It is 3 lbs less than most tires in this size, supposed great wet stopping, rolls easier, and got me wondering.. anyone try one of these?

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Well, scrap the Michelins, seems most rate it as average at best.
 

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