The Dark Side For those members running "Car Tires" on their scoots. This is for their discussion only and not a place for "non dark siders" to mouth off about their negative opinions of this idea!

Gone to the Dark Side - Ongoing Review

  #151  
Old 08-03-2018, 05:07 AM
PFWiz's Avatar
PFWiz
PFWiz is offline
Stellar HDF Member

Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern, Ohio (Yuck!)
Posts: 3,406
Received 378 Likes on 228 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by lightweight bob
I've got Power Vision that will adjust the speedo. That's said, which one - was thinking 205 / 55 x 16 V rated Michelin Premier A/S.
Which one is up to you, but I will give you a few hints.

1) IMO a 205 rides softer than a 195. I currently have a 195 and will not do that again. Not to mention that a 205 puts more rubber on the road.
2) Personally asymmetrical tires on the rear of a bike bother me. I have absolutely no proof they have issues, they just bother my sense of "rightness". Lots of Dark Siders run them and like them, but they drive me nuts, kinda like spiders.
3) Why do you want a V rated tire? Do you own the worlds fastest Harley touring bike? Do you ride at 149 mph regularly? Not trying to slam you, but IMO buying performance you can never use is a waste of money.
 
  #152  
Old 08-03-2018, 08:49 AM
5280Ruffian's Avatar
5280Ruffian
5280Ruffian is offline
Tourer
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Arvada
Posts: 444
Received 82 Likes on 59 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by PFWiz
2) Personally asymmetrical tires on the rear of a bike bother me. I have absolutely no proof they have issues, they just bother my sense of "rightness". Lots of Dark Siders run them and like them, but they drive me nuts, kinda like spiders.

I am with you on this. I worked at a tire shop for 6 years and asymmetrical tires are designed to push water to the outside of the car. This means, in rain, the tire will push water to one side of the bike. I don't know that it will make a difference, but I am bothered by this too. I would get a non-directional tire or a directional tire. Anything that says "Mount this side out" shouldn't be on a motorcycle. That's my opinion.

To be clear, I have no issue with DS. I had DS on my Kawasaki Vulcan 2000 because the 125 CI engine destroyed motorcycle tires. I loved it.
 
  #153  
Old 08-03-2018, 08:20 PM
lightweight bob's Avatar
lightweight bob
lightweight bob is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Banning, CA
Posts: 1,136
Received 150 Likes on 101 Posts
Default Michelin Premier A/S (all season)

Originally Posted by PFWiz
Which one is up to you, but I will give you a few hints.

1) IMO a 205 rides softer than a 195. I currently have a 195 and will not do that again. Not to mention that a 205 puts more rubber on the road.
2) Personally asymmetrical tires on the rear of a bike bother me. I have absolutely no proof they have issues, they just bother my sense of "rightness". Lots of Dark Siders run them and like them, but they drive me nuts, kinda like spiders.
3) Why do you want a V rated tire? Do you own the worlds fastest Harley touring bike? Do you ride at 149 mph regularly? Not trying to slam you, but IMO buying performance you can never use is a waste of money.
The Michelin Premier is not asymmetrical - conventional tread pattern. V rated tires typically have a stiffer sidewall than H and I thought that might be
a good thing - right or wrong? Tnx for the insight into 195 vs 205 but would you do 55 or 60 series profile?
 

Last edited by lightweight bob; 08-03-2018 at 08:21 PM. Reason: spelling
  #154  
Old 08-04-2018, 11:19 AM
PFWiz's Avatar
PFWiz
PFWiz is offline
Stellar HDF Member

Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern, Ohio (Yuck!)
Posts: 3,406
Received 378 Likes on 228 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by lightweight bob
The Michelin Premier is not asymmetrical - conventional tread pattern. V rated tires typically have a stiffer sidewall than H and I thought that might be
a good thing - right or wrong? Tnx for the insight into 195 vs 205 but would you do 55 or 60 series profile?
That tire sure looks asymmetrical to me.
I am running a run flat tire, so who am I to say anything about sidewall stiffness?
60 series is much closer stock tire dia. With a 55 you speedo may read an additional mph or 2 faster.
 
  #155  
Old 08-05-2018, 08:38 PM
propflux01's Avatar
propflux01
propflux01 is offline
Road Master

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Arkansastan
Posts: 1,211
Received 262 Likes on 165 Posts
Default

Well, I just bought another rear wheel, and putting a pirelli P1 RF on it. Yes, it is ugly, but all the searching I have been doing, those that run it, love it, not to mention its only 21 pounds. Just waiting for the mail! Oh, and a BT45 for the front.
 

Last edited by propflux01; 08-05-2018 at 08:40 PM.
  #156  
Old 08-06-2018, 07:18 AM
PFWiz's Avatar
PFWiz
PFWiz is offline
Stellar HDF Member

Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern, Ohio (Yuck!)
Posts: 3,406
Received 378 Likes on 228 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by propflux01
Well, I just bought another rear wheel, and putting a pirelli P1 RF on it. Yes, it is ugly, but all the searching I have been doing, those that run it, love it, not to mention its only 21 pounds. Just waiting for the mail! Oh, and a BT45 for the front.
Cool beans!

Now you have to decide if you are going to run the BT45 frontwards or backwards.....
 
  #157  
Old 08-07-2018, 09:26 AM
propflux01's Avatar
propflux01
propflux01 is offline
Road Master

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Arkansastan
Posts: 1,211
Received 262 Likes on 165 Posts
Default

The BT45 is going on backwards. That was the easy decision there. I just hope the Pirelli stands out as well as Ive read so far.
 
  #158  
Old 08-27-2018, 12:41 PM
Baloofalo's Avatar
Baloofalo
Baloofalo is offline
Novice
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Sycamore, IL
Posts: 18
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

OK, this seems to be the place to ask...

2016 Harley Davidson Ultra. I have around 17K on my rear tire, a Hankook Optimo, and I am down to below 3/32s. Not happy to say the least.

I want to switch to a run flat anyway, what have you guys been running/recommending?

195 60/R16 89H.

I would also like to go DD, but not sure what will fit on the front. I save that for another time.



 
  #159  
Old 08-27-2018, 07:09 PM
PFWiz's Avatar
PFWiz
PFWiz is offline
Stellar HDF Member

Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern, Ohio (Yuck!)
Posts: 3,406
Received 378 Likes on 228 Posts
Default

This is what I am currently running. Had the bike up to about 85 with no issues. Less "wobbly" in high speed sweepers than the GMax was on the old bike...

BRIDGESTONE POTENZA RE960AS POLE POSITION RFT 195/55
 
  #160  
Old 10-08-2018, 11:00 AM
PFWiz's Avatar
PFWiz
PFWiz is offline
Stellar HDF Member

Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern, Ohio (Yuck!)
Posts: 3,406
Received 378 Likes on 228 Posts
Default

Time for another update.
6500 miles on the new bike, 6400 of those on the Dark Side. The bike runs great rock solid, no problems cranking a steady 80 mph on the super slab. Still handles like it is on rails during a downpour. None of my riding buddies can keep up with me when it gets real wet!
I run about 36 psi cold because that limits my hot pressure to about 41 psi.
I still get the faults from "Low Pressure" and another most likely something to do with the diameter being different. The pressure fault goes away as soon as the tire warms up and the diameter one clears at about 45 mph. The red fault light stays on though. I don't know why.
These M8 issues take away some of my joy of riding on the dark side. Not 100% sure I will do it again after I wear out this tire, just because it is a pain.....
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Gone to the Dark Side - Ongoing Review



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:58 PM.