THUNDERMAX: Need TMax Timing Help
#11
I think the AFR mods you did are the right direction.. As far as timing goes, Closed throttle timing on this map is pretty good IMO.. What you can do is start to slide the timing down slope to the right in the regions you run.. Hope your ears are good and keep an I on the plugs..
I'm not sure how much more you can pick up tho.. 32 to 33 is all that bad for the extra stuff you have to spin..
I'm not sure how much more you can pick up tho.. 32 to 33 is all that bad for the extra stuff you have to spin..
My hearing is terrible. Thanks for the suggestion. Just getting over 2 days of rain here and will be doing runs tomorrow with your changes. I will post a pic of current pugs.
By regions I run that would be 3 timing pages: 2560rpm thru 3072rpm, correct?
One other thing I was going to try was change the injector timing fron 392 to 380 but can wait on that.
#12
#13
My hearing is terrible. Thanks for the suggestion. Just getting over 2 days of rain here and will be doing runs tomorrow with your changes. I will post a pic of current pugs.
By regions I run that would be 3 timing pages: 2560rpm thru 3072rpm, correct?
One other thing I was going to try was change the injector timing fron 392 to 380 but can wait on that.
By regions I run that would be 3 timing pages: 2560rpm thru 3072rpm, correct?
One other thing I was going to try was change the injector timing fron 392 to 380 but can wait on that.
The plugs look a little rich but if that was from a sidestand run, I wouldn't worry.. Main thing I look for is small brown, gray or silvery *****..
#14
I think the AFR mods you did are the right direction.. As far as timing goes, Closed throttle timing on this map is pretty good IMO.. What you can do is start to slide the timing down slope to the right in the regions you run.. Hope your ears are good and keep an I on the plugs..
I'm not sure how much more you can pick up tho.. 32 to 33 is all that bad for the extra stuff you have to spin..
I'm not sure how much more you can pick up tho.. 32 to 33 is all that bad for the extra stuff you have to spin..
Question: I copied this to 2560rpm But what about the other tables. ? I cant cut and paste this to them. Better question would be how do you determine how much to move on each page?
Last edited by icebite1; 09-08-2016 at 07:05 PM.
#15
Do the same kind of thing.. Ever use the "L" command?
Move the cursor to one point, press L, move to another and press L again.. Line between the 2 points..
Move each dropping line say 4 to 5 dots to the right.. By doing that you are increasing partial throttle timing a few degrees for everything on the down slope.
Move the cursor to one point, press L, move to another and press L again.. Line between the 2 points..
Move each dropping line say 4 to 5 dots to the right.. By doing that you are increasing partial throttle timing a few degrees for everything on the down slope.
#16
#17
Great, I use several of the shortcut keys.
Another Question: Do the number of dot movements top and bottom line need to be the same? in other words 4 over top line and 4 over bottom line then link them (L L)? Your two pages are different there. Just trying to understand this more as we go along.
Another Question: Do the number of dot movements top and bottom line need to be the same? in other words 4 over top line and 4 over bottom line then link them (L L)? Your two pages are different there. Just trying to understand this more as we go along.
Last edited by icebite1; 09-08-2016 at 07:39 PM.
#18
Here's the deal,, I'm simply giving you ideas on which way to go.. IMO even the maps Thunderheart or Zippers has produced are best guess tuning for the bikes they tuned on a dyno.. My bet is that a degree of timing here or there may help or it may not.. What you are doing here is trying to make a map developed for a specific bike work for your bike. The stuff I've shown you is the direction to work.. No more.. If you hear ping, best to note throttle position and RPM and either pull timing or add fuel (if in the lean part of the AFR). You should find some gains.. If most of what you are doing is cruising steady state logging data and using Mega Log Viewer can help some.. Gen II (Tmax) systems are a bit of a PITA to collect data compared to Gen III systems..
#20
T-MAX timing slope
here a link to an earlier post where we were talking about the timing slope ...see if any of this makes sense !!!
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/the-d...l#post15185716
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/the-d...l#post15186938
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/the-d...l#post15185716
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/the-d...l#post15186938
Last edited by springers4ever; 09-08-2016 at 10:27 PM.