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HARLEY: Screamin' Eagle Pro Street Tuner and '17 M8

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This is supposedly a new tuner. The only one Harley currently sells since paying the fine to the EPA. I don't know how much it is similar to the HD tuners that came before it.

I've got a 2017 Street Glide 107" M8. I put a heavy breather on it, stock exhaust. No other changes from stock. It had some minor decel popping from the pipes, otherwise ran great.

I bought a Screamin' Eagle Pro Street Tuner Part Number 41000008C yesterday and used it to download Harley's stage one map for the bike. I took it for a five mile ride. The decel popping is gone.

My question for anyone who has used this brand new tuner, or one of the other recent HD tuners, is how do you know if the new map is in the ECM? When we downloaded the new map each step to install it was followed closely and it appeared to install in the ECM correctly, and as I said the decel popping went away. But I'd like to confirm the download through the computer if possible.
 
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Originally Posted by ocezam
This is supposedly a new tuner. The only one Harley currently sells since paying the fine to the EPA. I don't know how much it is similar to the HD tuners that came before it.

I've got a 2017 Street Glide 107" M8. I put a heavy breather on it, stock exhaust. No other changes from stock. It had some minor decel popping from the pipes, otherwise ran great.

I bought a Screamin' Eagle Pro Street Tuner Part Number 41000008C yesterday and used it to download Harley's stage one map for the bike. I took it for a five mile ride. The decel popping is gone.

My question for anyone who has used this brand new tuner, or one of the other recent HD tuners, is how do you know if the new map is in the ECM? When we downloaded the new map each step to install it was followed closely and it appeared to install in the ECM correctly, and as I said the decel popping went away. But I'd like to confirm the download through the computer if possible.
The map should be in the dongle, pull up the software with the dongle connected and the power and run switches on and look in the VCI tab
 
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I am so glad to see this post. I bought some VH Twin Slash slip on and decal pop is awful. I was getting ready to buy the new Screaming Eagle Pro Tuner. Is there a Stage I preprogrammed map already available in the software?
 
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Originally Posted by ocezam
This is supposedly a new tuner. The only one Harley currently sells since paying the fine to the EPA. I don't know how much it is similar to the HD tuners that came before it.

I've got a 2017 Street Glide 107" M8. I put a heavy breather on it, stock exhaust. No other changes from stock. It had some minor decel popping from the pipes, otherwise ran great.

I bought a Screamin' Eagle Pro Street Tuner Part Number 41000008C yesterday and used it to download Harley's stage one map for the bike. I took it for a five mile ride. The decel popping is gone.

My question for anyone who has used this brand new tuner, or one of the other recent HD tuners, is how do you know if the new map is in the ECM? When we downloaded the new map each step to install it was followed closely and it appeared to install in the ECM correctly, and as I said the decel popping went away. But I'd like to confirm the download through the computer if possible.
I asked the dealer last week about putting a stage I kit in my 2017 bike. I told him I would do the labor. He said that I would still have to have their service department do a flash install to marry the newly purchased Harley tuner to the bike. The cost to do this was going to be $125.00 for labor and $70.00 for various "shop supplies". My question is "how are you doing this yourself without using a Harley shop?
 
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Originally Posted by Retrop
I asked the dealer last week about putting a stage I kit in my 2017 bike. I told him I would do the labor. He said that I would still have to have their service department do a flash install to marry the newly purchased Harley tuner to the bike. The cost to do this was going to be $125.00 for labor and $70.00 for various "shop supplies". My question is "how are you doing this yourself without using a Harley shop?
$200 to do the ECM recalibration sounds wrong to me, that's what they used to charge for their 1 time recalibration download using DT. I bought the tuner and had them put the mufflers on and recalibrate it because they ran a Winter 20/20 special and they have a VCI cable so I didn't have to buy one of those for another $50, unless I want to play with the tuner myself down the road. I think you should be able to buy the tuner, cable, install the hardware and software all by yourself using your laptop and following the instructions.
 
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Anybody with a Street tuner VCI, cable set, and a laptop can DIY.
Remember the ST is EPA approved, and will adjust the ECM in a very narrow scope. Adequate for the SE line of legal products, but may not have enough adjustment range for aftermarket parts. HD agreed to limit the stuff they sell, after paying a multi million dollar fine for providing EPA defeat devices. If you have warranty concerns, then use only their products. If not, there are much better tuning devices available.
 
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Originally Posted by rigidthumper
Anybody with a Street tuner VCI, cable set, and a laptop can DIY.
Remember the ST is EPA approved, and will adjust the ECM in a very narrow scope. Adequate for the SE line of legal products, but may not have enough adjustment range for aftermarket parts. HD agreed to limit the stuff they sell, after paying a multi million dollar fine for providing EPA defeat devices. If you have warranty concerns, then use only their products. If not, there are much better tuning devices available.
The problem is: Where am I, or anybody else going to get the download? Harley sure as hell is not going to make it available on the internet for everyone to access for free. I will be the first to say that after paying $299.95 to buy their tuner and then having to pay another ***** house price to flash it is outrageous. The damn tuner does not even stay on the bike after they run the downloaded file. It is nothing more than an interface to install the Stage I update. They pretty much have you by the short hairs when it comes to compliance with their new 2017 models and warranty.
 
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Originally Posted by texaswiz
The problem is: Where am I, or anybody else going to get the download? Harley sure as hell is not going to make it available on the internet for everyone to access for free. I will be the first to say that after paying $299.95 to buy their tuner and then having to pay another ***** house price to flash it is outrageous. The damn tuner does not even stay on the bike after they run the downloaded file. It is nothing more than an interface to install the Stage I update. They pretty much have you by the short hairs when it comes to compliance with their new 2017 models and warranty.
You've been misinformed.

The new Pro Street Tuner, comes with (in the free software you download to your laptop) a complete list of tunes for Harley-Davidson and Screamin' Eagle add on components, including all 2017 Screamin' Eagle components.

You do the flash yourself. It's easy.

Of course the VCI module doesn't stay on the bike. That's why it's called a "flash tuner": You connect your laptop to the bike using the VCI, flash the new tune, and then disconnect it. That's how it works. "It is nothing more than an interface to install the Stage 1 update". Well, yes.
 
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Connect up your VCI and computer to the bike and enter the tool box function on the top tabs of the program.
Then on the left side of the tool box screen you'll have a tab with the option to read the current calibration as well as some other information taken directly from the bike's ECM.
 
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Originally Posted by IdahoHacker
You've been misinformed.

The new Pro Street Tuner, comes with (in the free software you download to your laptop) a complete list of tunes for Harley-Davidson and Screamin' Eagle add on components, including all 2017 Screamin' Eagle components.

You do the flash yourself. It's easy.

Of course the VCI module doesn't stay on the bike. That's why it's called a "flash tuner": You connect your laptop to the bike using the VCI, flash the new tune, and then disconnect it. That's how it works. "It is nothing more than an interface to install the Stage 1 update". Well, yes.
Are you saying that when you buy the tuner from the dealer they are going to include a link to a site that will allow you to download the "flash" to the bike's ECM?
 

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