No Device: Street ported 103 with Andrews 57H - My apologies for when I was not listening
#1
11-04-2017, 11:02 AM
Street ported 103 with Andrews 57H - My apologies for when I was not listening
For anyone that noticed any of my questions/threads about tuning over the last couple of years, Steve asked if I had called it a day on the old bike.
The answer for the benefit of anyone who is curious is i did indeed call it a day ...but in a good way
To be very honest, and as a public apology for not listening to you guys as well as I should have been, the bike was running damned good when I traded it in for a new Fatboy 114.
I test rode a 114 and the first thought was not about it, but how well mine WAS actually running.
I had been chasing a ghost for the best part of two years ...thinking that I should be able to get the idle and very low load parts of the config running better than it was. Riding the 114 woke me up to the realisation that I had done rather well with mine after all
I learnt a hell of a lot over the time, and many thanks to all of the people for that ...and putting up with me asking stupid questions, and sometimes questioning the answers you gave (blush).
For anyone that is interested in collecting such things; I've attached my final map. It is not a professional map and is certainly not guaranteed for anything other than amusement, so play with it at your own peril It worked rather well for me tho. Runs reasonably well all the way from idle up to 6000, the 57H really coming on about the 2500 mark, and no knock even grabbing a handful at low revs. IVO/IVC is 7/29 which I found best for my build. Bear in mind this was on ported heads at 10:1
Incidentally, the last insult for me was building a map on the FP3 so that I could give that away with the bike. Copying the developed map from the Power Vision to the FP3 by hand was a nightmare!! and I flattened the battery on the bike twice, sat outside doing it all. What didn't help is the 2014 softail map in the FP3 has so many mistakes - headings in tables are not correct and the max revs in the App is 500 less than is actually applied to the ECU ...go figure!
The answer for the benefit of anyone who is curious is i did indeed call it a day ...but in a good way
To be very honest, and as a public apology for not listening to you guys as well as I should have been, the bike was running damned good when I traded it in for a new Fatboy 114.
I test rode a 114 and the first thought was not about it, but how well mine WAS actually running.
I had been chasing a ghost for the best part of two years ...thinking that I should be able to get the idle and very low load parts of the config running better than it was. Riding the 114 woke me up to the realisation that I had done rather well with mine after all
I learnt a hell of a lot over the time, and many thanks to all of the people for that ...and putting up with me asking stupid questions, and sometimes questioning the answers you gave (blush).
For anyone that is interested in collecting such things; I've attached my final map. It is not a professional map and is certainly not guaranteed for anything other than amusement, so play with it at your own peril
It worked rather well for me tho. Runs reasonably well all the way from idle up to 6000, the 57H really coming on about the 2500 mark, and no knock even grabbing a handful at low revs. IVO/IVC is 7/29 which I found best for my build. Bear in mind this was on ported heads at 10:1Incidentally, the last insult for me was building a map on the FP3 so that I could give that away with the bike. Copying the developed map from the Power Vision to the FP3 by hand was a nightmare!! and I flattened the battery on the bike twice, sat outside doing it all. What didn't help is the 2014 softail map in the FP3 has so many mistakes - headings in tables are not correct and the max revs in the App is 500 less than is actually applied to the ECU ...go figure!
Last edited by Gordon61; 11-04-2017 at 11:03 AM.
#3
11-06-2017, 07:22 PM
Outstanding HDF Member
For anyone that noticed any of my questions/threads about tuning over the last couple of years, Steve asked if I had called it a day on the old bike.
The answer for the benefit of anyone who is curious is i did indeed call it a day ...but in a good way
To be very honest, and as a public apology for not listening to you guys as well as I should have been, the bike was running damned good when I traded it in for a new Fatboy 114.
I test rode a 114 and the first thought was not about it, but how well mine WAS actually running.
I had been chasing a ghost for the best part of two years ...thinking that I should be able to get the idle and very low load parts of the config running better than it was. Riding the 114 woke me up to the realisation that I had done rather well with mine after all
I learnt a hell of a lot over the time, and many thanks to all of the people for that ...and putting up with me asking stupid questions, and sometimes questioning the answers you gave (blush).
For anyone that is interested in collecting such things; I've attached my final map. It is not a professional map and is certainly not guaranteed for anything other than amusement, so play with it at your own peril It worked rather well for me tho. Runs reasonably well all the way from idle up to 6000, the 57H really coming on about the 2500 mark, and no knock even grabbing a handful at low revs. IVO/IVC is 7/29 which I found best for my build. Bear in mind this was on ported heads at 10:1
Incidentally, the last insult for me was building a map on the FP3 so that I could give that away with the bike. Copying the developed map from the Power Vision to the FP3 by hand was a nightmare!! and I flattened the battery on the bike twice, sat outside doing it all. What didn't help is the 2014 softail map in the FP3 has so many mistakes - headings in tables are not correct and the max revs in the App is 500 less than is actually applied to the ECU ...go figure!
The answer for the benefit of anyone who is curious is i did indeed call it a day ...but in a good way
To be very honest, and as a public apology for not listening to you guys as well as I should have been, the bike was running damned good when I traded it in for a new Fatboy 114.
I test rode a 114 and the first thought was not about it, but how well mine WAS actually running.
I had been chasing a ghost for the best part of two years ...thinking that I should be able to get the idle and very low load parts of the config running better than it was. Riding the 114 woke me up to the realisation that I had done rather well with mine after all
I learnt a hell of a lot over the time, and many thanks to all of the people for that ...and putting up with me asking stupid questions, and sometimes questioning the answers you gave (blush).
For anyone that is interested in collecting such things; I've attached my final map. It is not a professional map and is certainly not guaranteed for anything other than amusement, so play with it at your own peril
It worked rather well for me tho. Runs reasonably well all the way from idle up to 6000, the 57H really coming on about the 2500 mark, and no knock even grabbing a handful at low revs. IVO/IVC is 7/29 which I found best for my build. Bear in mind this was on ported heads at 10:1Incidentally, the last insult for me was building a map on the FP3 so that I could give that away with the bike. Copying the developed map from the Power Vision to the FP3 by hand was a nightmare!! and I flattened the battery on the bike twice, sat outside doing it all. What didn't help is the 2014 softail map in the FP3 has so many mistakes - headings in tables are not correct and the max revs in the App is 500 less than is actually applied to the ECU ...go figure!
#5
11-08-2017, 09:53 AM
HD EFI Guru
#6
11-08-2017, 11:42 AM
I thought you were always polite and professional. But I do compare you to guys that haven't successfully ever tuned a bike. Telling me that the code is screwed up and the IAT sensor is in the wrong place and the answer is to relocate it out of the intake. I have been attacked and tried to be discredited because I don't believe that IPW can be over 100%. I have also been attacked and tried to be discredited because I am too stupid to do anything else besides dyno tune for a living. I have even had my service as a US Marine attacked.
So, if I give you information, and you question it until you can test the theory. It is the only way you will get the knowledge. Let's start tuning the new one.
So, if I give you information, and you question it until you can test the theory. It is the only way you will get the knowledge. Let's start tuning the new one.
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#7
11-10-2017, 05:24 PM
and THE one thing I have learned over the time is that a little box, with a canned map, and an "autotune" or two is not going to turn me into anything other than that. You offered a lot of good information and pointers to things (that I did go off and test) and I very much appreciated that, so cheers mate, and the discreditors can bu99er off.
Anyway, as I said, a big thanks to those that know what the hell they are talking about ...and we know who you are
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