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Old 06-05-2016, 04:57 AM
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What's the difference between the two, given the same viscosity and synthetic make up? I'm not talking about any particular brand, but many manufacturers offer a 20/50 full synthetic, and offer a full synthetic motorcycle specific 20/50. Is it worth the extra money?
 
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...Is it worth the extra money?
IMO, no. They all contain essentially the same additive packages. Great marketing though...

While it's true some claim more Zinc in their package, the reality is the amount that can be added is mandated by our government so the difference needs to be measured by the most accurate of instruments (read very little difference).

Zinc has been the magic bullet for some time. It does provide for a slightly higher level of wear resistance but does so at a cost. Zinc is considered an aggressive additive and will exclude other additives (like those that carry away contaminants). This might be fine for the very short run but extended use can actually cause more wear not less.

But if motorcycle-specific oils make you happy, go for it.
 
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Originally Posted by Pine Tree
IMO, no. They all contain essentially the same additive packages. Great marketing though...

While it's true some claim more Zinc in their package, the reality is the amount that can be added is mandated by our government so the difference needs to be measured by the most accurate of instruments (read very little difference).

Zinc has been the magic bullet for some time. It does provide for a slightly higher level of wear resistance but does so at a cost. Zinc is considered an aggressive additive and will exclude other additives (like those that carry away contaminants). This might be fine for the very short run but extended use can actually cause more wear not less.

But if motorcycle-specific oils make you happy, go for it.
Well Said...
 
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In a bike that shares a motor and a clutch sump, it's a big deal. Not on a Harley.
 
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I buy m1 15-50 race then add stp for the extra zddp, zinc & something). At half the price and change it often, 2000- 2500 miles. Cheaper Bosch filter to go with it. It's usely just starting to change color on dip stick at 2000, I like clean oil. Soon to do my third oil change for the year.

I think I'm set for the year, picked up at Walmart for $23. Thinking of trying the STP for synthetic they just came out with but the old stuff works just fine.
 
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Not sure but I quit drinking the overpriced koolaid about 6 years ago. It's a motor so I put motor oil in it. Dump it at a wasted 5000 miles anyway so it really makes no difference.
 
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i did the same - 20/50 mobil 1 from wally world - $24 five quarts
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Not sure but I quit drinking the overpriced koolaid about 6 years ago. It's a motor so I put motor oil in it. Dump it at a wasted 5000 miles anyway so it really makes no difference.
 
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v-twin = wet clutch safe. not an issue for us.
 
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Used oil analysis's have shown time and time again that "non motorcycle" oil tests as well or better than "motorcycle oil". Meanwhile marketing has shown that offering a motorcycle specific oil is more profitable.
Personally I use Valvoline VR1 racing oil.
 
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great question - and answers! i have often wondered...
 


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