Legend AXEO or Ohlins FKC100 or???
#31
Hi HB,
Regarding your comment, "I just ordered the GP 25MM kit from Howard".
Is "GP" the name Howard is using for his Ohlin's up-line "Road and Track" cartridge? Or is this something entirely different?
I'm converting my 41mm fork tubes to 49mm. Then I'll use his triple trees and adjustable "Road and Track" cartridges. I just have not decided on 25mm or 30mm yet. But I do not recall hearing him use the name "GP".
Also, have you any experience, or spoken with anyone regarding the difference in feel or performance between the 25mm vs 30mm cartridge?
Appreciate any feedback.
Thanks
Regarding your comment, "I just ordered the GP 25MM kit from Howard".
Is "GP" the name Howard is using for his Ohlin's up-line "Road and Track" cartridge? Or is this something entirely different?
I'm converting my 41mm fork tubes to 49mm. Then I'll use his triple trees and adjustable "Road and Track" cartridges. I just have not decided on 25mm or 30mm yet. But I do not recall hearing him use the name "GP".
Also, have you any experience, or spoken with anyone regarding the difference in feel or performance between the 25mm vs 30mm cartridge?
Appreciate any feedback.
Thanks
#32
GP expression
Hey G Brown,
From my conversation with Howard the other day, he has two different versions of Ohlins cartridges. There's the FKC 101(25mm) and FKC102(30mm). And these are not adjustable. And these perform very well.
But he also explained, he has a 25mm and a 30 mm "road and track" upline version of the Ohlins cartridge. And these are fully adjustable. I saw online that "Road and Track" is terminology that Ohlins uses . He made it very clear that their valving is far superior to the regular Harley FKC cartridges.
I suspect he has modified the Ohlins "Road and Track" cartridges that go in high performance front ends, to work with our Harleys. But I am just guessing here.
Maybe, the term "GP" refers to the fact that this is a modified version of the cartridge used in GP race bikes. ???
Again, I really don't know.
From my conversation with Howard the other day, he has two different versions of Ohlins cartridges. There's the FKC 101(25mm) and FKC102(30mm). And these are not adjustable. And these perform very well.
But he also explained, he has a 25mm and a 30 mm "road and track" upline version of the Ohlins cartridge. And these are fully adjustable. I saw online that "Road and Track" is terminology that Ohlins uses . He made it very clear that their valving is far superior to the regular Harley FKC cartridges.
I suspect he has modified the Ohlins "Road and Track" cartridges that go in high performance front ends, to work with our Harleys. But I am just guessing here.
Maybe, the term "GP" refers to the fact that this is a modified version of the cartridge used in GP race bikes. ???
Again, I really don't know.
#33
"GP" is for GP Suspensions ... http://www.gpsuspension.com/ ... (the reference is for ones purchased / (modified?) through Howie)
Here's an Install Thread on a 2014 49mm Street Glide New Suspension Time
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Here's an Install Thread on a 2014 49mm Street Glide New Suspension Time
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#34
Hey G Brown,
From my conversation with Howard the other day, he has two different versions of Ohlins cartridges. There's the FKC 101(25mm) and FKC102(30mm). And these are not adjustable. And these perform very well.
But he also explained, he has a 25mm and a 30 mm "road and track" upline version of the Ohlins cartridge. And these are fully adjustable. I saw online that "Road and Track" is terminology that Ohlins uses . He made it very clear that their valving is far superior to the regular Harley FKC cartridges.
I suspect he has modified the Ohlins "Road and Track" cartridges that go in high performance front ends, to work with our Harleys. But I am just guessing here.
Maybe, the term "GP" refers to the fact that this is a modified version of the cartridge used in GP race bikes. ???
Again, I really don't know.
From my conversation with Howard the other day, he has two different versions of Ohlins cartridges. There's the FKC 101(25mm) and FKC102(30mm). And these are not adjustable. And these perform very well.
But he also explained, he has a 25mm and a 30 mm "road and track" upline version of the Ohlins cartridge. And these are fully adjustable. I saw online that "Road and Track" is terminology that Ohlins uses . He made it very clear that their valving is far superior to the regular Harley FKC cartridges.
I suspect he has modified the Ohlins "Road and Track" cartridges that go in high performance front ends, to work with our Harleys. But I am just guessing here.
Maybe, the term "GP" refers to the fact that this is a modified version of the cartridge used in GP race bikes. ???
Again, I really don't know.
#36
Thanks Multihdr
Hey Multihdr,
Thanks for the explanation and the link. That answered all my questions.
Now my only concern will be how to adjust them without modifying the nacelle. I know I can cut and plug it. But I really do not want to do that.
Looks like I will have to remove the nacelle for a day of adjusting and then put it back on.
Thanks for the explanation and the link. That answered all my questions.
Now my only concern will be how to adjust them without modifying the nacelle. I know I can cut and plug it. But I really do not want to do that.
Looks like I will have to remove the nacelle for a day of adjusting and then put it back on.
#37
#38
I have a 2004 Road King and two winters ago I installed the Legend Axeo gas cartridges in the front and the Pro Action shocks in the rear.
It made a big difference on the ride. All the small bumps like railroad crossings and manhole covers disappeared and the large bumps were better. Now the big sharp bumps are still there maybe not as sharp but there is no way your going to get rid of those.
My wife says it was a waste of money but I think that is only because she was expecting that we would have a Cadillac ride so a little bit of a let down for her. But I know because I do most of the riding know and feel a big difference. The stock ride sucked big time and I mean big time. Harley Davidson should be ashamed of their selves for putting on such a shitty suspension.
So what ever you do it will be an improvement over the stock system. It just depends on how much money you want to spend.
Bruce
It made a big difference on the ride. All the small bumps like railroad crossings and manhole covers disappeared and the large bumps were better. Now the big sharp bumps are still there maybe not as sharp but there is no way your going to get rid of those.
My wife says it was a waste of money but I think that is only because she was expecting that we would have a Cadillac ride so a little bit of a let down for her. But I know because I do most of the riding know and feel a big difference. The stock ride sucked big time and I mean big time. Harley Davidson should be ashamed of their selves for putting on such a shitty suspension.
So what ever you do it will be an improvement over the stock system. It just depends on how much money you want to spend.
Bruce
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