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Old 08-09-2018, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by onekawboy
Well my 2003 Sporty didn't have issues, nor did my 2006 Street Glide....My 2000 Springer is as stable as can be .....but this PIG of an Ultra wants to roll no matter what.... the FLHXi did it once and I about fainted..... so not really ...old guy with old bike ... with a question to see if it was common amongst the 800lb bikes..... New to the site though

Been racing dirt scooters for the past 7 years and decided it might be time to slow down....let me rephrase that...be more comfortable and less competitive in my riding preferences .....
Spend a few years kicking over big inch stroker motors any worry about the kickstand are a non starter, you kinda have to get violent with some of the bigger hi-comp engines to get them to roll over. Kickstands have dealt with that kinda abuse for decades without fail.

And I hear you with the comfort thing, my daily was one of those big inch had to kick it bikes, then I went to a 17 Road King, poor shovels doing a lot of sitting these days.
 
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Just make sure there is a lock washer under the head of the bolt on the jiffy stand.
 
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by klammer76
The CHP was established in 1929. The leg stop was introduced in 1974 (check the part number).
Heres a 1925 add, describing the jiffy stand and how it prevents the bike from rolling forward



and here’s the jiffy stand for the 1923 to 1929 twins





 
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Thanks foxtrapper, we're pushing forwards on both history and an understanding of the jiffy! US Police-spec Kawasakis and Moto Guzzis have both used a similar design in the past. I'm mystified by new owners not being able to understand just how wonderfully robust and dependable a thing a jiffy is. Just get off and walk away!

Some while ago, in a similar thread, a member described visiting the MoCo factory and seeing them being made. He was impressed and stated he would never doubt their robustness ever again! I bought my first new Harley in 1974 and the dealer would jack a Glide onto it's jiffy using an auto trolley jack, to remove one or even both wheels.
 

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Even after 100000 miles on her, I still pucker a bit as well...never fai.ed though..
 
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper



Heres a 1925 add, describing the jiffy stand and how it prevents the bike from rolling forward



and here’s the jiffy stand for the 1923 to 1929 twins





I stand corrected, you were right. The jiffy stand and lock did precede the CHP.


 
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I have come to fear only soft ground and hot asphalt with the jiffy stand.
 
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Wow, learn something new all the time! Thought I knew about the origins of the different stands throughout the years, but guess not lol
 
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Wow, learn something new all the time! Thought I knew about the origins of the different stands throughout the years, but guess not lol
Same here! I don't know where the CHiPS legend comes from.
 
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It’s interesting to contrast the HD locking stand with various others.

Like Moto Guzzi and their darn near auto retract design, which is notorious for dropping bikes.

Or Honda and their rubber tab, designed to flick the stand up should you ride off with it still down.

Yamaha and others with the kill switch on the stand, letting you start the engine in neutral with the stand out, but killing the engine should you put it in gear.

as well the degree of lean, or not. The size of the footprint.

You’d think someone by now would have figured out a way to combine the best of these features to make a superb side stand by now. Aye, Harley’s is arguably one of the best, when deployed on a parked bike. But ride off with it extended and dive into a left hand turn... not so nice now that locking tab.

 


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