Im making a HUGE assumption here, but based on my years of dealership experience and conversation with the previous owner:

The Screaming Eagle parts were put on at the time of purchase, at the dealer. Ive never known a HD dealer who would skip a reflash if the bike needed it. However, HD still has to stay within EPA regs with their factory stuff so even with a factory reflash (in 2006) its probably still running lean.
Once spring gets here Ill have a lot of questions to answer and diagnostics to perform. I agree that taking it to the shop to see if its had a ECM reprogram would be the best idea, but as we all now, NOTHING is free and by the time I get finished with labor (even for a courtesy check) I could have put a substantial down payment on a tuner.

So, another question (based on what DDTJGlide mentioned).. is there a noticeable difference between a HD, stage 1 tune (performed by techs using HD hardware) vs an aftermarket tune system?
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You do realize that if the dealer re-flashed the ECM when they did the exhaust and intake that the bike was brought back to the EPA requirements, lean. IMHO get a tuner that a indy can tune for you, they will be adding a tick more fuel for driveability. Would your dealership work on a 12 year old bike?

 

I said earlier, I used to work there. The bike is clean and not boogered with. Im sure they would work on it. They will usually work on any Harley, regardless of age, as long as its been well maintained. I digress......But as you stated......(and what I suspected) the factory reflash is drivable but lean. I guess its time for a tuner.

 

 

Wouldnt I be able to dial it in just using the Fuel Moto? Can I get real close? Im sure they already have a map for a SE stage 1. Im not aware of any independent dealers in the area with a dyno.

 

Tuners do not have a feedback loop, by which I mean they cannot detect the results of their own efforts, unlike the operator of a dyno, who can make adjustments to the tuning device, then run the bike and establish the outcome of each adjustment. You may be able to good results, but will never know that you have them!

 

call fuel motto !, just tell any one there, what you have and what your bike is doing, and go with what they say. you will be glad you did.

 

I think thats the route Ill take, but once we get closer to spring. Getting a dyno run just isnt going to happen for me but Im sure they will have an out of the box program that will work. Winters last forever here, ive got about the next 6 months to sit and shine this bike, but not ride it.

 

I did not have the benefit of your post that further explained your concern when I first posted. Do you have any friends with a similar bike, or a trusted mechanic or service writer at your former employer who could take your bike around the block and make an informed opinion on whether your engine responds to a quick throttle tweak the way all of the rest of them do or if you indeed have a performance problem? You may just have noticed a difference between older bikes and newer bikes. When the Delphi FI system was new, there were lots of complaints about low end throttle response when compared to cable controlled throttles. It was not common knowledge at the time that the standard factory program would not allow wide open throttle below 3000 rpm regardless of twist grip position. This lead to many "poor throttle response" complaints from those having recently updated to throttle by wire bikes. You may have a real problem, or it may just be the nature of the beast. None of us on the internet will be able to tell you for sure.