Originally Posted by 23Seven
(Post 17946211)
Got an email back from Jaime (Fuel Moto). His reccomendation was to add the releases and use the .030 Gasket since I’m sticking with my 48’s. The benefits of a mild port are not going to be relevant with the 48’s. Jaime’s given me good advice so far. End of the day I’ll have a bump in compression and start easier which is what I wanted. Does anyone know a good shop in Nor Cal that I can take the head to? Just to install MCR’s. |
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If you want acr’s I would suggest buying used 103 heads that already have them. Thats what I did on an 06 Ultra but I also have a Thundermax ECM on the bike so turning on the acr function and tuning was simple. Otherwise just have manuals machined into your heads like Fuel Moto suggested. |
As Old Hippie and others have said, getting a set of 103 heads with ACRs is your cheapest route, then do your head work. The thing to remember about manual CRs is that a hot re-start at a traffic light when stalled is going to be slower, either you take the time to push them in or the motor slow cranks as it did before. It's also possible for a manual CR to become carboned up and stick open. Auto CRs are there for every start, are controlled by the ECM, provided they don't malfunction. I chose to use S&S EZ Start gear drive cams as an alternative to both. Always there, not electronic and nothing for me to do. When adjusting push rods on EZ Starts you need to make sure the exhaust PR is off the EZ Start lobe, real easy to do.
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Originally Posted by skydude426
(Post 17951512)
If you want acr’s I would suggest buying used 103 heads that already have them. Thats what I did on an 06 Ultra but I also have a Thundermax ECM on the bike so turning on the acr function and tuning was simple. Otherwise just have manuals machined into your heads like Fuel Moto suggested. |
Originally Posted by Nomadmax
(Post 17951610)
As Old Hippie and others have said, getting a set of 103 heads with ACRs is your cheapest route, then do your head work. The thing to remember about manual ACRs is that a hot re-start at a traffic light when stalled is going to be slower, either you take the time to push them in or the motor slow cranks as it did before. It's also possible for a manual ACR to become carboned up and stick open. Auto ACRs are there for every start, are controlled by the ECM, provided they don't malfunction. I chose to use S&S EZ Start gear drive cams as an alternative to both. Always there, not electronic and nothing for me to do. When adjusting push rods on EZ Starts you need to make sure the exhaust PR is off the EZ Start lobe, real easy to do.
manual ACR’s and automatic ACR’s what you are saying is manual (automatic compression releases) and automatic (automatic compression releases) In other words ACR = Automatic Compression Release With that said going ACR = Purchase Take Off 103 Heads which I’m having trouble finding for less than $300 and then buy the harness. Probably be into it for $400 or more with shipping. Do MCR’s for like $150-175 parts and labor. Not sure where I’m saving on 103 heads?? |
Originally Posted by 23Seven
(Post 17951633)
I just gotta call you out on the post. manual ACR’s and automatic ACR’s what you are saying is manual (automatic compression releases) and automatic (automatic compression releases) In other words ACR = Automatic Compression Release With that said going ACR = Purchase Take Off 103 Heads which I’m having trouble finding for less than $300 and then buy the harness. Probably be into it for $400 or more with shipping. Do MCR’s for like $150-175 parts and labor. Not sure where I’m saving on 103 heads?? |
Originally Posted by Nomadmax
(Post 17951731)
Thanks for the correcting my syntax on ACR and MCR. I edited my post so it doesn't confuse anyone. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by 23Seven
(Post 17951633)
I just gotta call you out on the post. manual ACR’s and automatic ACR’s what you are saying is manual (automatic compression releases) and automatic (automatic compression releases) In other words ACR = Automatic Compression Release With that said going ACR = Purchase Take Off 103 Heads which I’m having trouble finding for less than $300 and then buy the harness. Probably be into it for $400 or more with shipping. Do MCR’s for like $150-175 parts and labor. Not sure where I’m saving on 103 heads?? |
Originally Posted by 0ldhippie
(Post 17953711)
ya left out the part about selling your heads to make back most of the newer heads purchase price. |
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