Sena 10s vs 20s and the HD WHIMS ??
#11
01-15-2019, 03:11 PM
Since when? It's the same connection, period. Only the electronics inside differ between the H-D & Sena branded headsets. What's even worse, Sena has dropped the phrase "water resistant" from its description.
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#12
01-15-2019, 03:25 PM
I have the HD WHIMS installed on my FLHCS and have it paired to and operating fine with my Sena 10S headset.
i know that the 20S (HD Branded) is supposed to give stereo sound vs the 10S giving mono, but in trying to decide whether or not to upgrade to the 20S, I wonder if folks have performance feedback they could offer to help me round out my decision tree?
i know that the 20S (HD Branded) is supposed to give stereo sound vs the 10S giving mono, but in trying to decide whether or not to upgrade to the 20S, I wonder if folks have performance feedback they could offer to help me round out my decision tree?
Personally, after trying the H-D WHiM, the Sena Freewire, the Sena 30K headset, the Cardo PackTalk Bold, and a wired IMC Motorcom HS-140P, I've decided to go with the H-D WHiM and the PackTalk Bold. Yes, it's not stereo, but who gives a sh#t at 60mph? Not only that, but the Mesh works when connected to the WHiM, and H-D's 3-years out of date headsets don't have Mesh technology, and Cardo's PackTalk Bold is IP67 WATERPROOF!
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#13
01-15-2019, 03:33 PM
Not for the S20.
#14
01-15-2019, 03:34 PM
Here I go again. Rather than wear my fingerprints off typing, go to the website below, the "Tech Stuff" section has a large write-up on bike comms, including a primer. It's a lot to digest, but I've spent over $1K to find out what works and how. (except with the new GTS CarPlay)
Personally, after trying the H-D WHiM, the Sena Freewire, the Sena 30K headset, the Cardo PackTalk Bold, and a wired IMC Motorcom HS-140P, I've decided to go with the H-D WHiM and the PackTalk Bold. Yes, it's not stereo, but who gives a sh#t at 60mph? Not only that, but the Mesh works when connected to the WHiM, and H-D's 3-years out of date headsets don't have Mesh technology, and Cardo's PackTalk Bold is IP67 WATERPROOF!
Personally, after trying the H-D WHiM, the Sena Freewire, the Sena 30K headset, the Cardo PackTalk Bold, and a wired IMC Motorcom HS-140P, I've decided to go with the H-D WHiM and the PackTalk Bold. Yes, it's not stereo, but who gives a sh#t at 60mph? Not only that, but the Mesh works when connected to the WHiM, and H-D's 3-years out of date headsets don't have Mesh technology, and Cardo's PackTalk Bold is IP67 WATERPROOF!
#15
01-15-2019, 03:36 PM
Yes, but the SPH10 has been discontinued in the 2019 P&A catalog, replaced by the new "Audio Expand" headset for 1/2 helmets. ($160)
Try your Sena 10 & 20 first to see how they sound. Yes, they'll be monaural, but like I've said, who cares at 60mph? As for the Sena 30K - until Sena makes a software upgrade, Sena's "Mesh Technology" is disabled when paired to a WHiM. H-D's headsets are still stuck with the older Bluetooth (what's new?).
PS... Sena's 20S & 30K speakers suck. I substituted UClear Digitals for better sound.
I just installed the WHIM but have not had the bike flashed yet,,, and I have Non Branded 20S and 10S already, so I guess now I will buy the HD Branded 10s or 20s, or 30s
PS... Sena's 20S & 30K speakers suck. I substituted UClear Digitals for better sound.
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#16
01-15-2019, 03:53 PM
Let’s be clear....the ONLY Bluetooth device that will give stereo sound when interfacing with the H-D WHIMS is the H-D branded SENA 20S. Period.
There are a multitude of Bluetooth devices that will give you stereo when paired with your phone. The SENA 10S will not produce stereo with WHIMS....hence my conundrum of sticking with mono or upgrading to the 20S.
BTW, I agree completely with the assessment of UClear Speakers. Much better than SENA speakers.
There are a multitude of Bluetooth devices that will give you stereo when paired with your phone. The SENA 10S will not produce stereo with WHIMS....hence my conundrum of sticking with mono or upgrading to the 20S.
BTW, I agree completely with the assessment of UClear Speakers. Much better than SENA speakers.
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#18
01-15-2019, 04:20 PM
That's not according to the 2018 P&A book - the H-D branded SPH10, 20S & 20S EVO, and the new "Audio Expand" headsets will.
There are a multitude of Bluetooth devices that will give you stereo when paired with your phone.
The SENA 10S will not produce stereo with WHIMS....hence my conundrum of sticking with mono or upgrading to the 20S.
BTW, I agree completely with the assessment of UClear Speakers. Much better than SENA speakers.
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