Upgrade to SE clutch spring.
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Andy from Sandy (04-18-2019)
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What brand of cable is this? From looking at the photo, that looks like the result of a defective crimp at the end cap allowing the inner shield to slide through and not an actual WTF and coast to the shoulder mechanical cable failure.
It seems that as long as the cable itself is not otherwise compromised, this happening should not leave you on the side of the road like a real cable failure would...also, it seems to me that what I see on this photo is more likely to happen if the cable was not thoroughly lubricated before it was installed...not saying that you didn't, but it seems more likely to happen if it isn't.
On the topic, I put in the SE heavy duty clutch spring when I put this Ultra Annie together and put 2000 miles on the original clutch cable with the heavy duty spring without any problems before changing handlebars and installing a Diamondblack cable. It takes noticeably more effort to disengage and It can be tiring for the wrist, hand, and forearm muscles in heavy traffic.
It seems that as long as the cable itself is not otherwise compromised, this happening should not leave you on the side of the road like a real cable failure would...also, it seems to me that what I see on this photo is more likely to happen if the cable was not thoroughly lubricated before it was installed...not saying that you didn't, but it seems more likely to happen if it isn't.
On the topic, I put in the SE heavy duty clutch spring when I put this Ultra Annie together and put 2000 miles on the original clutch cable with the heavy duty spring without any problems before changing handlebars and installing a Diamondblack cable. It takes noticeably more effort to disengage and It can be tiring for the wrist, hand, and forearm muscles in heavy traffic.
Last edited by skinman13; 04-18-2019 at 09:56 AM.
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Andy from Sandy (04-18-2019)
#23
Having not had a clutch cable off a bike I didn't know that. I was expecting to see a broken inner.
So pulling the clutch caused the sleeve to slide out and the inner cable and outer that does the actual work has not broken.
So how come a stronger spring is causing the sleeve to slide out?
So pulling the clutch caused the sleeve to slide out and the inner cable and outer that does the actual work has not broken.
So how come a stronger spring is causing the sleeve to slide out?
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Originally Posted by skinman13
What brand of cable is this? From looking at the photo, that looks like the result of a defective crimp at the end cap allowing the inner shield to slide through and not an actual WTF and coast to the shoulder mechanical cable failure.
It seems that as long as the cable itself is not otherwise compromised, this happening should not leave you on the side of the road like a real cable failure would...also, it seems to me that what I see on this photo is more likely to happen if the cable was not thoroughly lubricated before it was installed...not saying that you didn't, but it seems more likely to happen if it isn't.
On the topic, I put in the SE heavy duty clutch spring when I put this Ultra Annie together and put 2000 miles on the original clutch cable with the heavy duty spring without any problems before changing handlebars and installing a Diamondblack cable. It takes noticeably more effort to disengage and It can be tiring for the wrist, hand, and forearm muscles in heavy traffic.
It seems that as long as the cable itself is not otherwise compromised, this happening should not leave you on the side of the road like a real cable failure would...also, it seems to me that what I see on this photo is more likely to happen if the cable was not thoroughly lubricated before it was installed...not saying that you didn't, but it seems more likely to happen if it isn't.
On the topic, I put in the SE heavy duty clutch spring when I put this Ultra Annie together and put 2000 miles on the original clutch cable with the heavy duty spring without any problems before changing handlebars and installing a Diamondblack cable. It takes noticeably more effort to disengage and It can be tiring for the wrist, hand, and forearm muscles in heavy traffic.
Added: both times when these cables were changed, the plastic clutch cable pin in the perch was mangled all to hell as well.
Last edited by SBates08; 04-18-2019 at 10:47 AM.
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I'd suspect another issue. My last bike had over 20k on it with the SE spring and factory cable before I went to taller bars and a longer cable. I put likely another 15k without any trouble.
I will only use Magnum cables from here on. I used a Drag cable at first with my taller bars and it was absolute trash.
I will only use Magnum cables from here on. I used a Drag cable at first with my taller bars and it was absolute trash.
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First let me say that I was running the heaviest SE spring available. Yes there's more than 1 but I don't remember the part number on it. These newer high efficiency clutch cables do not require lube, yes the lube helps but it's not required. Over time with the SE spring, the cable started digging into the Teflon sleeve until it eventually grabbed and pulled it out with it. The first cable that did it was a Drag Specialties and the 2nd one was a Goodridge. Even though they don't require lubing, if your gonna run a SE spring, I'd advise in getting you a good silicone based cable lube.
Added: both times when these cables were changed, the plastic clutch cable pin in the perch was mangled all to hell as well.
Added: both times when these cables were changed, the plastic clutch cable pin in the perch was mangled all to hell as well.
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Originally Posted by 23Seven
Anyone break a Magnum cable?
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Thanks for the input... My bike is not a powerhouse but it will eat a stock 96 for lunch and as a matter of fact I haven't had any problems pulling on 103's after adding the cam either. So yes I think with that added power the upgraded spring is needed. That said the stock spring did have some slippage when banging through the gears and uphill loaded 5th and 6th pulls slip as well.
My guess is I got that issue solved... We'll see how the cables hold up??
My guess is I got that issue solved... We'll see how the cables hold up??
As far as the sleeve coming out I'd check for real tight bends and lube the cable with some teflon type lubricant like Break Free. I've had good luck with stock, barnett and motion pro clutch cables.