front wheel bearing failure
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This was the picture I took from road side.
I do not own a pressure/power washer - are they sealed bearings?
If not sealed when and how should they be repacked?
I own a shop manual I think they are supposed to be sealed?
The bike had 10,900 miles at the time of failure
Purchased the bike new, original tires at the time
This is a problem, the dealer said he has replace a few here and I live on a little island. Great bike but in 30+ years of riding I have not had a bearing failure.
Original thread
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...ase-marks.html
Here is another thread this one about the rear wheel bearing.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...g-failure.html
I do not own a pressure/power washer - are they sealed bearings?
If not sealed when and how should they be repacked?
I own a shop manual I think they are supposed to be sealed?
The bike had 10,900 miles at the time of failure
Purchased the bike new, original tires at the time
This is a problem, the dealer said he has replace a few here and I live on a little island. Great bike but in 30+ years of riding I have not had a bearing failure.
Original thread
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...ase-marks.html
Here is another thread this one about the rear wheel bearing.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...g-failure.html
Last edited by EricD10563; 09-21-2009 at 02:42 PM.
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This was the picture I took from road side.
I do not own a pressure/power washer - are they sealed bearings?
If not sealed when and how should they be repacked?
I own a shop manual I think they are supposed to be sealed?
The bike had 10,900 miles at the time of failure
Purchased the bike new, original tires at the time
This is a problem, the dealer said he has replace a few here and I live on a little island. Great bike but in 30+ years of riding I have not had a bearing failure.
Original thread
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...ase-marks.html
Here is another thread this one about the rear wheel bearing.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...g-failure.html
I do not own a pressure/power washer - are they sealed bearings?
If not sealed when and how should they be repacked?
I own a shop manual I think they are supposed to be sealed?
The bike had 10,900 miles at the time of failure
Purchased the bike new, original tires at the time
This is a problem, the dealer said he has replace a few here and I live on a little island. Great bike but in 30+ years of riding I have not had a bearing failure.
Original thread
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...ase-marks.html
Here is another thread this one about the rear wheel bearing.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...g-failure.html
YES they are sealed bearings and should last for eons!!!!
2 observations (thanks for posting the picture).
1) The seal had popped off.
2) The bearing is bone dry of lubrication! (of course the heat generated during failure might have caused that part).
As Carpetride asked, I too would be VERY curious to know who made that bearing. Poor installation can also cause a bearing to fail prematurely. (hammering them in instead of pressing them in, for one).
A sealed bearing does not need lube, but a pressure washer (25 cent car wash) can blow existing lube out of them. ( I know, not the case with yours - but worth mentioning for others).
Thanks for sharing your experience! I for one, will be inspecting my bearings soon, LOL
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Just to clarify about the seal, it did not look that bad when I pulled over. It wasn't until a closer inspection that I noticed how the seal was seperating, that gave me the confidence to take my knife blade pull it apart, it was easy to do and was obvious the seal was already broken. Just saying it might not look that bad.
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I work with large electric motors (as used in the Steel Mills).
I know for a fact that sealed bearings are very durable and will last for many years of hard use,...... unless damaged upon install, or other forces such as a hard imbalance (which would be too obvious on a bike to keep riding), or if moisture was allowed to get past the seal and corrode part of the race or *****. Also, they could have been "cocked" (not installed perfectly parallel) or over tightening the axle could have caused a bind. Improper housing fit (housing to small) is another issue I've seen, but not real common. Now if HD has had many go out like yours, the housing fit could be a possibility. Press fit, yes, but too tight of a press fit is bad.
I'd want the old bearing back so I could do a real thorough inspection as to what exactly went on.
I know for a fact that sealed bearings are very durable and will last for many years of hard use,...... unless damaged upon install, or other forces such as a hard imbalance (which would be too obvious on a bike to keep riding), or if moisture was allowed to get past the seal and corrode part of the race or *****. Also, they could have been "cocked" (not installed perfectly parallel) or over tightening the axle could have caused a bind. Improper housing fit (housing to small) is another issue I've seen, but not real common. Now if HD has had many go out like yours, the housing fit could be a possibility. Press fit, yes, but too tight of a press fit is bad.
I'd want the old bearing back so I could do a real thorough inspection as to what exactly went on.
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Just to clarify about the seal, it did not look that bad when I pulled over. It wasn't until a closer inspection that I noticed how the seal was seperating, that gave me the confidence to take my knife blade pull it apart, it was easy to do and was obvious the seal was already broken. Just saying it might not look that bad.
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I still thinks its the nicest bike I have ever owned but more for emotional reasons than anything else.
Edited to show the metal protrusion. I have no idea what that is.
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Edited to show the metal protrusion. I have no idea what that is.
Here's a lil info that speaks of several possible causes of bearing failure.
http://www.wilcoxon.com/knowdesk/bearing.pdf
As said in the article, it does not take much "misalignment" to ruin your day. Nothing the eye can see.
Your bearings failed prematurely for a reason! I'll just bet the HD researchers already found the reason, they just ain't broadcasting it to the public. LOL
If misalignment exceeds 0.001
in./in you can expect an abnormal
temperature rise in the bearing
and/or housing and heavy wear in
in./in you can expect an abnormal
temperature rise in the bearing
and/or housing and heavy wear in
the cage ball-pockets.
The cage is what is sticking out the side of your bearing (part of the cage).
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Last edited by Faast Ed; 09-21-2009 at 06:17 PM.
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Wheel Bearings
IBHARLEY
On my 08 Electra Glide Classic had it in the dealer for 10K service tech noticed a funny noise from the front wheel thus the wheel bearing was replaced under warranty, not as bad as yours but getting there. I was just lucky so hats why I let the dealer do the servicing, hes got the tools and the knowledge, I go to Barbs Harley Davidson Camden County New Jersey! Excuse the shameless plug!!LOL, Ride Safe Bill
On my 08 Electra Glide Classic had it in the dealer for 10K service tech noticed a funny noise from the front wheel thus the wheel bearing was replaced under warranty, not as bad as yours but getting there. I was just lucky so hats why I let the dealer do the servicing, hes got the tools and the knowledge, I go to Barbs Harley Davidson Camden County New Jersey! Excuse the shameless plug!!LOL, Ride Safe Bill