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gerkamming 05-18-2011 02:27 AM

Anti Lock Brakes on Road King - from what year?
 
From which year model Road King is ABS (anti lock braking) standard on the Road King? 2008 and newer?

ThunderBueller 05-18-2011 03:51 AM

ABS is still optional. It's been available though since 2008.

strtarrow 05-18-2011 04:12 AM

Since I graduated from dirt bike to a Harley. Never had the need in a cage or bike but I may be the exception to the rule....

kingkingking 05-18-2011 04:55 AM

Thunderbueller is a bit off the mark here. He is right about USA bikes, but there is a whole world out there!!

You are in belgium. HDI (international) bikes had ABS as standard from 2009 onwards. The 2008 Screamin Eagle RK had ABS std, but not sure if it went to Belguim.

The 2009 ABS is hopeless, if you end up with an 09 be sure to get the dealer to flash upgrade the software.

Dont expect BMW grade ABS, the HD ABS is pretty dumb and can actually increase your stopping distance.

glide2005 05-18-2011 04:56 AM

It was either 04 or 05 on RK cop bikes. My brother has an 05 RK cop bike, and it has ABS.

DaveHead 05-18-2011 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by kingkingking (Post 8335407)
The 2009 ABS is hopeless, if you end up with an 09 be sure to get the dealer to flash upgrade the software.

Dont expect BMW grade ABS, the HD ABS is pretty dumb and can actually increase your stopping distance.

Hey sounds like you moreorless are solid in knowing what your talking about but at the same time your the first I have heard so bluntly put downing the HD abs... So not to take over this thread but will you please elaborate a bit on your great dislike of the HD ABS?

I am very much wondering if how I have the upgraded flash how, and to what degree, that is expected to improve the Road King ABS.

kingkingking 05-18-2011 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by DaveHead (Post 8335457)
Hey sounds like you moreorless are solid in knowing what your talking about but at the same time your the first I have heard so bluntly put downing the HD abs... So not to take over this thread but will you please elaborate a bit on your great dislike of the HD ABS?

I am very much wondering if how I have the upgraded flash how, and to what degree, that is expected to improve the Road King ABS.

Warning - this will seriously derail the thread.

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...r-to-stop.html

It has so many times before. Putting down HD ABS really pisses people off for some reason. Anyhow, if you had ridden a 2007 or later BMW with ABS you would know what I am talking about.

ThunderBueller 05-18-2011 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by kingkingking (Post 8335407)
Thunderbueller is a bit off the mark here. He is right about USA bikes, but there is a whole world out there!!

You are in belgium. HDI (international) bikes had ABS as standard from 2009 onwards. The 2008 Screamin Eagle RK had ABS std, but not sure if it went to Belguim.

The 2009 ABS is hopeless, if you end up with an 09 be sure to get the dealer to flash upgrade the software.

Dont expect BMW grade ABS, the HD ABS is pretty dumb and can actually increase your stopping distance.

Sorry, didn't see his location.

twincam47 05-18-2011 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by kingkingking (Post 8335407)
Thunderbueller is a bit off the mark here. He is right about USA bikes, but there is a whole world out there!!

You are in belgium. HDI (international) bikes had ABS as standard from 2009 onwards. The 2008 Screamin Eagle RK had ABS std, but not sure if it went to Belguim.

The 2009 ABS is hopeless, if you end up with an 09 be sure to get the dealer to flash upgrade the software.

Dont expect BMW grade ABS, the HD ABS is pretty dumb and can actually increase your stopping distance.

Lets get the professional test....2010 Michigan State Police testing of 2011 Police Motorcycles w/ABS:

BMW R1200RTP-wet weight 650 lbs.
H-D FLHP-wet weight 828 lbs.

BMW @ 60 MPH (136.81 feet to 151.28 feet)-20 stops test-Average decel rate 27.10 ft/s
H-D @ 60 MPH (141.07 feet to 158.96 feet)-20 stops test-Average decel rate 26.15 ft/s

For weighing 178 lbs. more, I'd say that H-D isn't rubbish at all...in fact it is outstanding!

And to answer the original question...Police FLHP-Roadking and FLHTP-Electra Glide got the first ABS in 2005 and they were optional. This ABS system was produced on police bikes from 2005-2007 models. Then in 2008 a new ABS system was introduced to both police and pleasure touring bikes.

DaveHead 05-18-2011 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by twincam47 (Post 8336594)
Lets get the professional test....2010 Michigan State Police testing of 2011 Police Motorcycles w/ABS:

BMW R1200RTP-wet weight 650 lbs.
H-D FLHP-wet weight 828 lbs.

BMW @ 60 MPH (136.81 feet to 151.28 feet)-20 stops test-Average decel rate 27.10 ft/s
H-D @ 60 MPH (141.07 feet to 158.96 feet)-20 stops test-Average decel rate 26.15 ft/s

For weighing 178 lbs. more, I'd say that H-D isn't rubbish at all...in fact it is outstanding!

And to answer the original question...Police FLHP-Roadking and FLHTP-Electra Glide got the first ABS in 2005 and they were optional. This ABS system was produced on police bikes from 2005-2007 models. Then in 2008 a new ABS system was introduced to both police and pleasure touring bikes.

All very interesting, I look forward to deciding for myself how I feel. My 09' with ABS will be delivered in about a week. Until then I'll set and wonder as both sides of this discussion make what seem to be valid points.

Before buying the 09', with my current bike, I had argued to myself that under most conditions with my skill I could come darn near any ABS system. OF course I am man enough to suggest that I don't honestly know if my ego or technology will ultimently win. I figure if it doesn't work out as well as it claims and that many people agree to that the option of shutting it off in all but snowy/icey or gravel/dirt settings is always there...

Someone mentioned installing a toggle switch, good idea, if the system isn't as up to par as I hope.


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