Originally Posted by bhaxton

An engine cant be constantly ran at stoich. There has to be fuel introduced into the exhaust to light off the cat. Most engine OEM's use a strategy called perturbation. This runs a cycle or two lean, and then a couple rich (around 13.5/1). Dont ask me how I know this. I might have to kill you if I tell you.

Originally Posted by Harleypingman

Yes, you're all wet. As mkguitar explained, there is no one "ideal" AFR. One of the advantages of EFI is it allows a far greater degree of matching AFR to the required conditions. You need lower AFR (more fuel) running up a hill than you do running down a hill. You need lower AFR accelerating from a dead stop and getting up to interstate cruising speed than you do running at a steady speed on a flat highway.

13:1 is extremely rich for virtually any riding condition; and, if you run that regularly you'll probably have a lot of unburned fuel contaminating the oil impairing the oil's lubrication capability.

Another advantage of EFI is the injectior allows the fuel to mist/atomize faster with the intake air compared to carbs which drips fuel into the intake air. So, for a given rpm and load, EFI allows less fuel to be added than a carb due to EFI's more efficient mixing of fuel with a given volume of intake air.

Carl

Originally Posted by nvsteve

All true but isn't the target AF approximately 13:1 for a full throttle roll on?