Built the best engine cooling system...again
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From: Central Texas
Finished up a little bigger set, pushing more than twice the air as the original model. Untested yet, too cold and I got company this weekend, but I'll get some numbers out soon as I can. New housing design is 1 piece instead of the original 3 piece screw together, I like it better for strengthe and simplicity, but I also like the polished face on the others. These have a straight 45* chamfer around the screen where the other had a venturi type radius. Its workable I can tweak em to suit different appearance taste. I rattle canned these but if they were powdercoated the same color as the jugs, they would blend in real nice. Need some feedback on appearance, just cause it's functional doesn't mean it has to be ugly. Hope I can get moving before some cheap import steals my thunder. Trying to redesign to expedite production, how would you all feel about the mounting tab being welded on instead of the machined block I'm using now, it would greatly reduce production time and cost, or would a more costly machined billet mount be a desireable feature.
Can't wait to see how it handles the 90 odd straight days of temps over 110
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I was just about to ask the same thing.
Can't wait to see how it handles the 90 odd straight days of temps over 110
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[QUOTE=2black1s;9147052]I don't want to start a debate over what oil temperatures are ideal, but oil temperatures do not need to be well over 200 to "cook" off moisture. Although the rate of evaporation changes with temperature, water will evaporate at any temperature.
I respectfully disagree. It can easily take 20-30 mi to get oil temps over 200*
Oil will produce acids when contaminated with water. If short trips are an ongoing event in high humidity these contaminates can and will cause more problems than 250* or hotter oil.
I respectfully disagree. It can easily take 20-30 mi to get oil temps over 200*
Oil will produce acids when contaminated with water. If short trips are an ongoing event in high humidity these contaminates can and will cause more problems than 250* or hotter oil.
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[quote=nytryder;9147505]
I can't disagree with what you're saying, except your very first sentence that you disagree. What you're stating is largely true, although the contaminants being worse than a given temperature is certainly open for debate, otherwise your post is accurate. The issue I have, is that you are citing examples that have nothing to do with my initial statement. I said nothing about how long it takes for oil to reach a given temperature or repeated "short trips". I simply said that water will evaporate at any temperature and it's not necessary for your oil to be "well over 200" degrees for that to occur.
I don't want to start a debate over what oil temperatures are ideal, but oil temperatures do not need to be well over 200 to "cook" off moisture. Although the rate of evaporation changes with temperature, water will evaporate at any temperature.
I respectfully disagree. It can easily take 20-30 mi to get oil temps over 200*
Oil will produce acids when contaminated with water. If short trips are an ongoing event in high humidity these contaminates can and will cause more problems than 250* or hotter oil.
I respectfully disagree. It can easily take 20-30 mi to get oil temps over 200*
Oil will produce acids when contaminated with water. If short trips are an ongoing event in high humidity these contaminates can and will cause more problems than 250* or hotter oil.
Last edited by 2black1s; Dec 15, 2011 at 06:41 PM.
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Had to go on a road trip right after i posted my new test results. I fixed the RPM typo, thanks to all for catching that.
Dude puts advertisements in his post....puke $$ material
get rid of your heat with a tune....
guy jacked the idea in the beginning...what a clown
wheel752, Im not sure what you meant either with this incomplete incoherent collection of words but I think it was an attempt at a personal attack on me, at least thats how I received it. Maybe I pricked you off in another life, but let me tell you something brother, I had a functional prototype in operation long before I ever saw the Love Jugs product on this forum last month, even after I saw them, I did not try to implement any elements of their gawd awful ugly, overpowered, oversized system, whoever they are. I got plenty of credible people who can attest to my original product design and the fact that I began work on it early this summer, I also have receipts from materials and components that I purchased for the prototype development that will date my project. This is my sole creation and I filed for a patent to protect it, so you can kiss this clowns ***. Furthermore, I challenge you to find a single advertisement in anything I ever posted, I actually declined a solicitation by another member just the other day, and I made mention to the same in the info paper I sent to 10 members with a FREE cold thermostat, because Im not going to compromise my own membership to this forum. When the time comes that I am ready to do business I will pay for my advertisements fair and square just like anyone else, and I will offer forum members a discount. Take your cool rich tune, and ride on out of this thread.
$tonecold, my larger set uses Delta Fans, I like their fans and I would like to use them if I can get a higher thermal protection rating. Ultimately I'll go with whoever can fill my specifications.
Dude puts advertisements in his post....puke $$ material
get rid of your heat with a tune....
guy jacked the idea in the beginning...what a clown
wheel752, Im not sure what you meant either with this incomplete incoherent collection of words but I think it was an attempt at a personal attack on me, at least thats how I received it. Maybe I pricked you off in another life, but let me tell you something brother, I had a functional prototype in operation long before I ever saw the Love Jugs product on this forum last month, even after I saw them, I did not try to implement any elements of their gawd awful ugly, overpowered, oversized system, whoever they are. I got plenty of credible people who can attest to my original product design and the fact that I began work on it early this summer, I also have receipts from materials and components that I purchased for the prototype development that will date my project. This is my sole creation and I filed for a patent to protect it, so you can kiss this clowns ***. Furthermore, I challenge you to find a single advertisement in anything I ever posted, I actually declined a solicitation by another member just the other day, and I made mention to the same in the info paper I sent to 10 members with a FREE cold thermostat, because Im not going to compromise my own membership to this forum. When the time comes that I am ready to do business I will pay for my advertisements fair and square just like anyone else, and I will offer forum members a discount. Take your cool rich tune, and ride on out of this thread.
$tonecold, my larger set uses Delta Fans, I like their fans and I would like to use them if I can get a higher thermal protection rating. Ultimately I'll go with whoever can fill my specifications.
$tonecold, my larger set uses Delta Fans, I like their fans and I would like to use them if I can get a higher thermal protection rating. Ultimately I'll go with whoever can fill my specifications.
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Road Master
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I currently have a Lenale that has been "rebuilt" after the fan failed (within 6 months of purchase). I found that the orignal fan unit was not very "weather" proof. I ride every day as my bike is my only mode of transport. I would be very interested in the dual fan design. I can't help thinking though that secured to the horn mount it'll get the crap shook out of it, which could lead to structural failure. If, however, the fan mount could be somehow attached to frame, this might lessen the stress considerably. Anyway, I'm following the thread and interested in test results during real world conditions. If you need a test mule in the Vegas area, I'm available. Good luck, hope it all works out.
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