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Old 06-10-2014, 09:58 PM
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I have a Super Tuner Pro for my 2012 FLHX. I want to find the most compatible SE base map available for de-catted exhaust, 10.75:1 pistons, S&S AC, Ported and Polished heads and an andrews 57H cam. Which SE cam is most comparable to the Andrews 57H. Bonus if you know which map would work best.

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EDIT: Maybe this is a better question. Would this config be comparable?
Components:
- SE Air Cleaner or Heavy Breather Kit
- SE Big Bore Cylinders
- SE 10.5:1 High Compression Pistons
- CNC Ported HTCC Heads
- SE-260 Cams
- Race Exhaust
 

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The 259E is the closest I am aware of. If you are hunting a map, send me a pm with your email and I will send you one. I can't send over forum as they are too large. That seems a little high on compression for an Andrews 57. The 044SDF004 may work for you. It appears to be tad on lean side. I think I would richen it up 5% on the VE tables to start with on both cylinders.
 
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204s with high ratio rockers a kind'a close to 57s?? Ya may want a little more compression with 260s. Why go SE anyway?? Much better options in the aftermarket...
 
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If I understood the question, the OP has TW57 cams and wants the closest base tune available to use with the SEPST tuner

The SE203 is also close but not included in the base tunes
The SE259E also close and is included in base tunes
044SDW001 with SE259E. 50mm TB & 4.3 injectors
044SDP001 with SE259E, 58mm TB & 5.3 injectors
 
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204s with high ratio rockers a kind'a close to 57s?? Ya may want a little more compression with 260s. Why go SE anyway?? Much better options in the aftermarket...
I know an engine builder and drag racer that would flat disagree with you and back it up. He swears by Harley cams.
 
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204s with high ratio rockers a kind'a close to 57s?? Ya may want a little more compression with 260s. Why go SE anyway?? Much better options in the aftermarket...
quality of manufacturing?
lift, open/close, duration, overlap?

SE cams often dished on but why? what part of the cam has better option in the aftermarket cams?

Seriously want your opinion. Use the often used 255 as a base of comparison (even though SE has different ones for different needs).
 
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Originally Posted by 1Canuck
If I understood the question, the OP has TW57 cams and wants the closest base tune available to use with the SEPST tuner

The SE203 is also close but not included in the base tunes
The SE259E also close and is included in base tunes
044SDW001 with SE259E. 50mm TB & 4.3 injectors
044SDP001 with SE259E, 58mm TB & 5.3 injectors
You are right, I totally misread the question??? I know next to nothing about base maps for the SEPST. Nevermind...
 
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I know an engine builder and drag racer that would flat disagree with you and back it up. He swears by Harley cams.
And he is a national record holder???
There are many folks that disagree with me on lots of stuff. So??
 
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Originally Posted by 1Canuck
quality of manufacturing?
lift, open/close, duration, overlap?

SE cams often dished on but why? what part of the cam has better option in the aftermarket cams?

Seriously want your opinion. Use the often used 255 as a base of comparison (even though SE has different ones for different needs).

Harley is a manufacture that must conform to Federal and State standards. As such they build parts they can get approved, not that provide optimal performance. Cams get the worst of this and 255s are the very worst, hard starts, heat and low rpm/hp.
 

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Originally Posted by 0ldhippie
Harley is a manufacture that must conform to Federal and State standards. As such they build parts they can get approved, not that provide optimal performance. Cams get the worst of this and 255s are the very worst, hard starts, heat and low rpm/hp.
I agree for the most part, but when you compare cams on the big boyz web site I see small differences. As in the comparison for the 259E it is very close to the 57 though not exact, so would that difference be noticed by a street rider. there are only so many grinds that can be done and still have the engine run. so while the racer on timed runs may see a difference I wonder what the average rider would notice if you did not tell them what cam is installed. Then again there are other cams that have no close comparison.
I see many reports of holy **** night and day difference, I ask was the bike tuned to maximum before the cam added which was then tuned to max. The difference would be night and day if the stock was not first tuned, but what was the real gain.
just saying and not preaching you can find an SE cam which is close to some of the popular internet approved ones. Then again, why would they grind the same specs as the SE.
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