Reflective tape and driving lights
#11
12-27-2018, 04:25 PM
That is what I said people do get away with . But like many things some get nailed if for no other reason than it is an excuse to stop you . I do not agree with never enough lights. There is a point it does some harm.
Flashing tail lights are not legal everywhere . I was stopped in Chicago for my BAL. No ticket a polite conversation with a LEO. He left with more question then he had answers when he stopped me.
That is why we end up with so many silly laws someone always has to push it one more level. That was how we ended up with the 4 white lights forward law. Jeeps and 4X4 adding and running big light bars on the street.
The rear of mine is Has lights , 100% with in the law and the front as well.
Flashing tail lights are not legal everywhere . I was stopped in Chicago for my BAL. No ticket a polite conversation with a LEO. He left with more question then he had answers when he stopped me.
That is why we end up with so many silly laws someone always has to push it one more level. That was how we ended up with the 4 white lights forward law. Jeeps and 4X4 adding and running big light bars on the street.
The rear of mine is Has lights , 100% with in the law and the front as well.
Thoughts?
24405. (a) Not more than four lamps of the following types showing to the front of a vehicle may be lighted at any one time: (1) Headlamps. (2) Auxiliary driving or passing lamps. (3) Fog lamps. (4) Warning lamps. (5) Spot lamps. (6) Gaseous discharge lamps specified in Section 25258.
(b) For the purpose of this section each pair of a dual headlamp system shall be considered as one lamp.
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12-27-2018, 07:05 PM
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i was interested in the DK stealth spotlights and after reading this, I checked on California light laws. It looks like adding the stealth spots would make my bike against the law. Here’s how it reads...
Thoughts?
24405. (a) Not more than four lamps of the following types showing to the front of a vehicle may be lighted at any one time: (1) Headlamps. (2) Auxiliary driving or passing lamps. (3) Fog lamps. (4) Warning lamps. (5) Spot lamps. (6) Gaseous discharge lamps specified in Section 25258.
(b) For the purpose of this section each pair of a dual headlamp system shall be considered as one lamp.
Headlight is #1
Factory Passing Lights are a pair, so they are #2
Stealth LED Driving Lights are a pair, so they are #3
You could still have 1 more pair after that.
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12-28-2018, 09:42 AM
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12-28-2018, 10:06 AM
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(b) For the purpose of this section each pair of a dual headlamp system shall be considered as one lamp.
The way I read it is a pair = 2 (which equals 1) according to law quoted.
Factory Passing Lights are a pair, so they = 1
Stealth LED Driving Lights are a pair, so they = 1
Add in the headlight either single or dual = 1
That leaves you with one more "pair" you can add.
Just my opinion.
The way I read it is a pair = 2 (which equals 1) according to law quoted.
Factory Passing Lights are a pair, so they = 1
Stealth LED Driving Lights are a pair, so they = 1
Add in the headlight either single or dual = 1
That leaves you with one more "pair" you can add.
Just my opinion.
#15
12-28-2018, 10:24 AM
Thanks for your thoughts guys. I was confused when I read the law. It seems like they are only considering a pair = 1 light for headlamps (headlights) like the RG. If that hadn’t been called out as a exception I could get my head around arguing it for spots and passing lights.
I really wanted the extra light of the spots too but am now torn.
I really wanted the extra light of the spots too but am now torn.
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12-28-2018, 03:15 PM
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Thanks for your thoughts guys. I was confused when I read the law. It seems like they are only considering a pair = 1 light for headlamps (headlights) like the RG. If that hadn’t been called out as a exception I could get my head around arguing it for spots and passing lights.
I really wanted the extra light of the spots too but am now torn.
I really wanted the extra light of the spots too but am now torn.
Well, I would never read it as a pair of driving lights being anything but a pair, and it says a pair is counted as 1 lamp, BUT, you never know how a lawyer or government agency might think.
THE IMPORTANT thing is that we have hundreds of folks IN California that have purchased these from us. We hear from our Customers all the time, and if one of them had had a problem with running them I am sure they would have let us know. We have had zero reports of any issues with folks running these in Cali.
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12-28-2018, 06:14 PM
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Back in the previous century, in the 1979s, before halogen lights were standard on motorcycles, it was recommended to run high beams. Today it is only blinding on coming drivers and making it difficult for them to judge your speed and distance. Plus it is just rude and arrogant, screaming " I'm more important than you".
If you are that afraid, sell you bike or trike and buy a cage.
If you are that afraid, sell you bike or trike and buy a cage.
#18
12-28-2018, 08:27 PM
We did the OP a disservice. He also ask about reflective tape. I have never seen a law governing the use of it anywhere. What I have seen is laws requiring reflectors on the side and stating a minimum , never a maximum. You also see them recommending the use of reflective riding gear. I would think you could do the whole bike in the tape if you wanted. They make some really good stuff now. Even the clothing. The Jacket I wear has reflective material butlook at in the normal use you would never know it. Light hits it at night and it looks like it is a light.
Another option is ground effect lighting. legal in Wisconsin with a few restrictions.on colors.
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2aYqo43]
Another option is ground effect lighting. legal in Wisconsin with a few restrictions.on colors.
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2aYqo43]
#19
12-29-2018, 12:41 AM
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We did the OP a disservice. He also ask about reflective tape. I have never seen a law governing the use of it anywhere. What I have seen is laws requiring reflectors on the side and stating a minimum , never a maximum. You also see them recommending the use of reflective riding gear. I would think you could do the whole bike in the tape if you wanted. They make some really good stuff now. Even the clothing. The Jacket I wear has reflective material butlook at in the normal use you would never know it. Light hits it at night and it looks like it is a light.
Another option is ground effect lighting. legal in Wisconsin with a few restrictions.on colors.
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2aYqo43]
Another option is ground effect lighting. legal in Wisconsin with a few restrictions.on colors.
[url=https://flic.kr/p/2aYqo43]
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01-03-2019, 04:41 PM
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