Fuel Pak 3 - Ready to throw in trash
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06-28-2017, 05:59 PM
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It was not known when initially pushed out. I'm sorry that you have had to wait a couple of days, but we have been working feverishly to release these updates. Technically it was available in 2 days, but Android has yet to be released, we are still waiting approval. I have been traveling this past week and was behind on the app emails. I am the sole responder for those, and sometimes I cannot always answer on the weekend.
This is not as simple as push a couple buttons on keyboard and, "voila!". The table locations, sizes and trims were all changed. This takes an incredible amount of development work to go through and decipher tables in hexidecimal. Even if you are proficient is hex code, there is 24k to go through. Then firmware must be updated which is over 17,000 lines of code. Then we must enable the application to handle everything which a whole other beast within itself. This 3-tier process is incredibly arduous but in the end makes a very simple process for you, the customer, to interact with the bike's ECM.
We believe it was more important for customers to ride their bike with a base map and make adjustments without AutoTune, than to wait 2 weeks and not be able to run at all. Neither is a good situation, but all will be handled within the next couple of days.
This is not as simple as push a couple buttons on keyboard and, "voila!". The table locations, sizes and trims were all changed. This takes an incredible amount of development work to go through and decipher tables in hexidecimal. Even if you are proficient is hex code, there is 24k to go through. Then firmware must be updated which is over 17,000 lines of code. Then we must enable the application to handle everything which a whole other beast within itself. This 3-tier process is incredibly arduous but in the end makes a very simple process for you, the customer, to interact with the bike's ECM.
We believe it was more important for customers to ride their bike with a base map and make adjustments without AutoTune, than to wait 2 weeks and not be able to run at all. Neither is a good situation, but all will be handled within the next couple of days.
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06-28-2017, 07:58 PM
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It was not known when initially pushed out. I'm sorry that you have had to wait a couple of days, but we have been working feverishly to release these updates. Technically it was available in 2 days, but Android has yet to be released, we are still waiting approval. I have been traveling this past week and was behind on the app emails. I am the sole responder for those, and sometimes I cannot always answer on the weekend.
This is not as simple as push a couple buttons on keyboard and, "voila!". The table locations, sizes and trims were all changed. This takes an incredible amount of development work to go through and decipher tables in hexidecimal. Even if you are proficient is hex code, there is 24k to go through. Then firmware must be updated which is over 17,000 lines of code. Then we must enable the application to handle everything which a whole other beast within itself. This 3-tier process is incredibly arduous but in the end makes a very simple process for you, the customer, to interact with the bike's ECM.
We believe it was more important for customers to ride their bike with a base map and make adjustments without AutoTune, than to wait 2 weeks and not be able to run at all. Neither is a good situation, but all will be handled within the next couple of days.
This is not as simple as push a couple buttons on keyboard and, "voila!". The table locations, sizes and trims were all changed. This takes an incredible amount of development work to go through and decipher tables in hexidecimal. Even if you are proficient is hex code, there is 24k to go through. Then firmware must be updated which is over 17,000 lines of code. Then we must enable the application to handle everything which a whole other beast within itself. This 3-tier process is incredibly arduous but in the end makes a very simple process for you, the customer, to interact with the bike's ECM.
We believe it was more important for customers to ride their bike with a base map and make adjustments without AutoTune, than to wait 2 weeks and not be able to run at all. Neither is a good situation, but all will be handled within the next couple of days.
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#13
07-03-2017, 01:54 PM
Ended up using the Power Vision. Ran a long auto tune session yesterday and it's running great. The Autotune didn't get as much decel popping out as I'd hoped for but otherwise it's running awesome.
When the FP3 app update comes out, I'll try doing the same with it and see which product gives me a better map.
When the FP3 app update comes out, I'll try doing the same with it and see which product gives me a better map.
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07-07-2017, 10:06 PM
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07-01-2018, 12:03 PM
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Email from V&H tech...
AUTOTUNE INSTRUCTIONS (only use if needed after 1-2 tanks of fuel with Base Map)
Be advised that while AUTOTUNE is active the bike will not perform optimally.
The AFR table is not optimized, and the cranking fuel/accel enrichment are turned off.
This may translate into poor cold start performance, erratic idle, poor throttle response, and general ride quality issues.
These will resolve once you ‘Finish’ the AUTOTUNE.
Letting the bike fully warmup before riding while AUTOTUNE is active will help to slightly diminish some of these symptoms.
1) Go to the AUTOTUNE tab in the main menu of the app.
2) Select a base map from which to start (select whichever slot your correct map is in, most likely slot 1 if this is a brand new FP3.
3) Select ‘Quick Setup'
4) It will have you flash the bike to run AUTOTUNE, follow the in app instructions (i.e. bike off for 30 seconds, etc.)
5) Once AUTOTUNE is active, you'll want to break it down into 3 sessions, approx. 20-30 minutes each.
6) After your first 20-30 minute session, open the app and go into the AUTOTUNE section. Select 'Apply Learned Values' and 'Apply'. This will take the data learned and store it, allowing for more data to be collected.
7) After the second 20-30 minute session do the same thing - ‘Apply Learned Values’ and then ‘Apply'.
8) After the 3rd total session, select 'Apply Learned Values’ and then select 'Finish'. This will complete the AUTOTUNE, taking everything learned from each 'Apply' and will build the map/put it into a new slot.
AUTOTUNE INSTRUCTIONS (only use if needed after 1-2 tanks of fuel with Base Map)
Be advised that while AUTOTUNE is active the bike will not perform optimally.
The AFR table is not optimized, and the cranking fuel/accel enrichment are turned off.
This may translate into poor cold start performance, erratic idle, poor throttle response, and general ride quality issues.
These will resolve once you ‘Finish’ the AUTOTUNE.
Letting the bike fully warmup before riding while AUTOTUNE is active will help to slightly diminish some of these symptoms.
1) Go to the AUTOTUNE tab in the main menu of the app.
2) Select a base map from which to start (select whichever slot your correct map is in, most likely slot 1 if this is a brand new FP3.
3) Select ‘Quick Setup'
4) It will have you flash the bike to run AUTOTUNE, follow the in app instructions (i.e. bike off for 30 seconds, etc.)
5) Once AUTOTUNE is active, you'll want to break it down into 3 sessions, approx. 20-30 minutes each.
6) After your first 20-30 minute session, open the app and go into the AUTOTUNE section. Select 'Apply Learned Values' and 'Apply'. This will take the data learned and store it, allowing for more data to be collected.
7) After the second 20-30 minute session do the same thing - ‘Apply Learned Values’ and then ‘Apply'.
8) After the 3rd total session, select 'Apply Learned Values’ and then select 'Finish'. This will complete the AUTOTUNE, taking everything learned from each 'Apply' and will build the map/put it into a new slot.
Last edited by djlogan33; 07-01-2018 at 12:05 PM.
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07-01-2018, 12:40 PM
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