Convert to Dual front dics with ABS
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#15
I agree completely about the stock brakes. Shameful.
As an alternative you could take the cheapo route and just replace the one caliper with one that actually works and save a lot of $$. I made up a bracket and used a 6 pot Tokico caliper off a sport bike. They are much the same on many of them - mine was from a ZX900 but a Hayabusa uses the same ones.
The bracket took some work but I just had hand tools. The bike now stops well and the project cost was less than $100.
Improving the tires (radials!) and suspension are well worth the investment to help your braking too.
As an alternative you could take the cheapo route and just replace the one caliper with one that actually works and save a lot of $$. I made up a bracket and used a 6 pot Tokico caliper off a sport bike. They are much the same on many of them - mine was from a ZX900 but a Hayabusa uses the same ones.
The bracket took some work but I just had hand tools. The bike now stops well and the project cost was less than $100.
Improving the tires (radials!) and suspension are well worth the investment to help your braking too.
#16
The calipers used
A good upgrade and you can get a pair on flea-Bay of the 6 piston Tokico
are a good upgrade. Better still is the Spoked mount 320mm rotor(s) we make with those calipers. The calipers are easy to chrome or powder coat, cheap, and readily available. You will need to buy/make an adapter bracket to adapt to your FXD fork slider(s). We are developing a kit for (first) a FLT using dresser Brembo calipers, adapter plates, & either spoke or hub mount utilizing our 320mm rotors. After we get that program running we will develop an adapter(s) for the FXD. You get the idea as all is better than those twin cam calipers. All it takes is some time, dedication, and willingness to work to make it yours. Good braking is essential in safety. You get increased brake feedback so you know what the wheel is doing and how far you can push it.
I am sure that staying with a single caliper would work exactly the same in an ABS application, you just change the caliper, adapter, and if you wish rotor size. The ABS sensor works on rotation. Good luck to all who have the ingenuity and determination to make your bike yours.
are a good upgrade. Better still is the Spoked mount 320mm rotor(s) we make with those calipers. The calipers are easy to chrome or powder coat, cheap, and readily available. You will need to buy/make an adapter bracket to adapt to your FXD fork slider(s). We are developing a kit for (first) a FLT using dresser Brembo calipers, adapter plates, & either spoke or hub mount utilizing our 320mm rotors. After we get that program running we will develop an adapter(s) for the FXD. You get the idea as all is better than those twin cam calipers. All it takes is some time, dedication, and willingness to work to make it yours. Good braking is essential in safety. You get increased brake feedback so you know what the wheel is doing and how far you can push it.
I am sure that staying with a single caliper would work exactly the same in an ABS application, you just change the caliper, adapter, and if you wish rotor size. The ABS sensor works on rotation. Good luck to all who have the ingenuity and determination to make your bike yours.
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A good upgrade and you can get a pair on flea-Bay of the 6 piston Tokico
are a good upgrade. Better still is the Spoked mount 320mm rotor(s) we make with those calipers. The calipers are easy to chrome or powder coat, cheap, and readily available. You will need to buy/make an adapter bracket to adapt to your FXD fork slider(s). We are developing a kit for (first) a FLT using dresser Brembo calipers, adapter plates, & either spoke or hub mount utilizing our 320mm rotors. After we get that program running we will develop an adapter(s) for the FXD. You get the idea as all is better than those twin cam calipers. All it takes is some time, dedication, and willingness to work to make it yours. Good braking is essential in safety. You get increased brake feedback so you know what the wheel is doing and how far you can push it.
I am sure that staying with a single caliper would work exactly the same in an ABS application, you just change the caliper, adapter, and if you wish rotor size. The ABS sensor works on rotation. Good luck to all who have the ingenuity and determination to make your bike yours.
are a good upgrade. Better still is the Spoked mount 320mm rotor(s) we make with those calipers. The calipers are easy to chrome or powder coat, cheap, and readily available. You will need to buy/make an adapter bracket to adapt to your FXD fork slider(s). We are developing a kit for (first) a FLT using dresser Brembo calipers, adapter plates, & either spoke or hub mount utilizing our 320mm rotors. After we get that program running we will develop an adapter(s) for the FXD. You get the idea as all is better than those twin cam calipers. All it takes is some time, dedication, and willingness to work to make it yours. Good braking is essential in safety. You get increased brake feedback so you know what the wheel is doing and how far you can push it.
I am sure that staying with a single caliper would work exactly the same in an ABS application, you just change the caliper, adapter, and if you wish rotor size. The ABS sensor works on rotation. Good luck to all who have the ingenuity and determination to make your bike yours.
Roger
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I would stay away from using Fat Bob legs on mid glide trees for your conversion, machine work is required for the right hand caliper and if you are using the XR1200 Nissin calipers machine work is required for both calipers due to lug spacing differences on the Fat Bob legs. That being said this is what the XR1200 caliper swap looks like.
This is what your dealing with, this is what the mismatch looks like on the right hand side with the caliper hard shimmed, centered on the rotor.
Setting the lug height on both calipers to center over the rotors, measure 10 times, machine once. Caliper dis-assembly is required to get everything square.
Conversion complete. The caliper mounting bolts are 17-4 PH, shortened to get full bolt shank engagement in the fork caliper lugs (OCD is strong with me).
: Mike
This is what your dealing with, this is what the mismatch looks like on the right hand side with the caliper hard shimmed, centered on the rotor.
Setting the lug height on both calipers to center over the rotors, measure 10 times, machine once. Caliper dis-assembly is required to get everything square.
Conversion complete. The caliper mounting bolts are 17-4 PH, shortened to get full bolt shank engagement in the fork caliper lugs (OCD is strong with me).
: Mike
Last edited by Nemosengineer; 09-11-2016 at 02:09 AM. Reason: Corrected really bad grammer
#19
I would stay away from using Fat Bob legs on mid glide trees for your conversion, machine work is required for the right hand caliper and if you are using the XR1200 Nissin calipers machine work is required for both calipers due to lug spacing differences on the Fat Bob legs. That being said this is what the XR1200 caliper swap looks like.
This is what your dealing with, this is with the what the mismatch looks like on the right hand side with the caliper hard shimmed, centered on the rotor.
Setting the lug height on both calipers to center over the rotors, measure 10 times, machine once. Caliper dis-assembly is required to get everything square.
Conversion complete. The caliper mounting bolts are 17-4 PH, shortened to get full bolt shank engagement in the fork caliper lugs (OCD is strong with me).
: Mike
This is what your dealing with, this is with the what the mismatch looks like on the right hand side with the caliper hard shimmed, centered on the rotor.
Setting the lug height on both calipers to center over the rotors, measure 10 times, machine once. Caliper dis-assembly is required to get everything square.
Conversion complete. The caliper mounting bolts are 17-4 PH, shortened to get full bolt shank engagement in the fork caliper lugs (OCD is strong with me).
: Mike
Thanks for the thoughts. Will show this post to the shop.
Roger
#20
Well here we go.
Taking the bike in on Tuesday.
Bike shop is very causual. They think its no problem especially since I already have a single disc abs.
I am always skeptical , especially when I have high expetations. I hope I am doing the right thing, but I am very committed and hate my singel disc.
They claim it will take only 2 weeks. We will see.
I done some home work, mainly on Forum posts . I printed and and will give them to the shop. I hope they read and not get insulted. But its good to hear from others with the same problems and experiences and fixes. I even found a post of dual disc conversion with abs with part numbers on the 2013 street bob.
Keep tuned in.
Roger
Taking the bike in on Tuesday.
Bike shop is very causual. They think its no problem especially since I already have a single disc abs.
I am always skeptical , especially when I have high expetations. I hope I am doing the right thing, but I am very committed and hate my singel disc.
They claim it will take only 2 weeks. We will see.
I done some home work, mainly on Forum posts . I printed and and will give them to the shop. I hope they read and not get insulted. But its good to hear from others with the same problems and experiences and fixes. I even found a post of dual disc conversion with abs with part numbers on the 2013 street bob.
Keep tuned in.
Roger