General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

How do you use throttle and rear brake at the same time in tight turns?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 09-14-2015, 01:38 PM
Grizzwood's Avatar
Grizzwood
Grizzwood is offline
Tourer
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 486
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Default How do you use throttle and rear brake at the same time in tight turns?

I read in the HOG magazine and on this forum about advanced riders being able to make tight low-speed turns by mastering the friction zone between throttle and clutch but also using the rear brake, which I guess allows even more slow speed control?

I've got pretty good control of the friction zone, but using the rear brake while using the throttle seems counter-initiative to me. How is it supposed to be done?
 
  #2  
Old 09-14-2015, 01:44 PM
Frank Dukes's Avatar
Frank Dukes
Frank Dukes is offline
Tourer
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: N. Illinois
Posts: 453
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

i just do it, dont overthink it.
 
  #3  
Old 09-14-2015, 01:51 PM
big papa AZ's Avatar
big papa AZ
big papa AZ is offline
Stellar HDF Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,334
Received 328 Likes on 215 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Frank Dukes
i just do it, dont overthink it.
Same here, but I haven't touched my rear brake since I bought my 15...
 
  #4  
Old 09-14-2015, 01:54 PM
Hasher's Avatar
Hasher
Hasher is offline
Road Captain
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Daytona
Posts: 686
Received 331 Likes on 180 Posts
Default

If you do it, ride the rear brake lightly while in the friction zone, you will feel the bike stabilize. Go to an empty parking lot and try it.
 
  #5  
Old 09-14-2015, 01:56 PM
im's Avatar
im
im is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location:
Posts: 5,494
Received 792 Likes on 603 Posts
Default

Go to youtube. View Ride like a Pro film clips.
In a slow speed situation.
Rear brake application causes bike to remain in a more vertical position (removes lean).
The application of power maintains this straight-up position.
The slipping of clutch or friction zone keeps the motor from turning off.
If motor was to turn off then a fall over could occur.
This application would most likely be used in a parking lot or u-turn.
 
  #6  
Old 09-14-2015, 01:57 PM
Sarah93003's Avatar
Sarah93003
Sarah93003 is offline
Club Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 25,168
Received 30,067 Likes on 6,791 Posts
Default

Give it some throttle, press on the rear brake and get a feel for it. Then add in some slipping of the clutch and "TA DA", you're ready for the slow race. It may seem counter intuitive, but so does opposite steering for rally racers.
 
  #7  
Old 09-14-2015, 02:01 PM
Tampa Fatboy's Avatar
Tampa Fatboy
Tampa Fatboy is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Sunshine State
Posts: 13,456
Received 10,431 Likes on 4,751 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by im
Go to youtube. View Ride like a Pro film clips.
In a slow speed situation.
Rear brake application causes bike to remain in a more vertical position (removes lean).
The application of power maintains this straight-up position.
The slipping of clutch or friction zone keeps the motor from turning off.
If motor was to turn off then a fall over could occur.
This application would most likely be used in a parking lot or u-turn.
+1...also the remarks not to over think it is key.
 
  #8  
Old 09-14-2015, 02:58 PM
gatorlaw's Avatar
gatorlaw
gatorlaw is offline
Outstanding HDF Member

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Nonya, BS
Posts: 2,644
Received 398 Likes on 124 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by big papa AZ
Same here, but I haven't touched my rear brake since I bought my 15...
Then you are not properly controlling slow speed handling of your bike.
 
  #9  
Old 09-14-2015, 03:39 PM
Queen-of-Clubs's Avatar
Queen-of-Clubs
Queen-of-Clubs is offline
Outstanding HDF Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 3,486
Received 1,334 Likes on 536 Posts
Default How do you use throttle and rear brake at the same time in tight turns?

Originally Posted by im
Go to youtube. View Ride like a Pro film clips.
In a slow speed situation.
Rear brake application causes bike to remain in a more vertical position (removes lean).
The application of power maintains this straight-up position.
The slipping of clutch or friction zone keeps the motor from turning off.
If motor was to turn off then a fall over could occur.
This application would most likely be used in a parking lot or u-turn.
excellent videos.
 
  #10  
Old 09-14-2015, 03:39 PM
Iarecobra's Avatar
Iarecobra
Iarecobra is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Yakima
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
Received 58 Likes on 54 Posts
Default How do you use throttle and rear brake at the same time in tight turns?

They taught me that in the MSF course I took. Good for the figure eight. U-turns. And unstable ground like gravel.
 


Quick Reply: How do you use throttle and rear brake at the same time in tight turns?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:37 PM.