CVO 110 Verses 103
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CVO 110 Verses 103
I am considering upgrading from my 2009 Road King to a CVO touring bike and my question goes to the difference between the standard 103 motor and the Screaming Eagle 110. I realize that the motor has another 7 cubic inches. But what else?
I know the Scream Eagle heads are different from stock but i don't know how there different.
I presume there is a better clutch since there using a hydraulic clutch actuator. But What is the difference?
Different Cams?
And Finally, what need to be done to the exhaust, I presume they have the head pipe catalytic converter in them.
Basically I want to know what are all the performance enhancement are.
I know the Scream Eagle heads are different from stock but i don't know how there different.
I presume there is a better clutch since there using a hydraulic clutch actuator. But What is the difference?
Different Cams?
And Finally, what need to be done to the exhaust, I presume they have the head pipe catalytic converter in them.
Basically I want to know what are all the performance enhancement are.
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Just got home from a trip with a buddy who has a '10 Ultra ('96) that has been upgraded to a 103.
My bike is a new S/E with the 110 and about 4,000 miles on it.
Both bikes have been dynode and both have had the cats removed.
He has V&H Monster Ovals and I have Rinehart XT True Duals with 4" mufflers.
So overall they're fairly equal.
We don't race but as for fuel consumption they're pretty close.
I think the largest variance between his bike and mine was 3/10ths of a gallon of fuel over 200+ miles so that isn't a lot.
My bike is a new S/E with the 110 and about 4,000 miles on it.
Both bikes have been dynode and both have had the cats removed.
He has V&H Monster Ovals and I have Rinehart XT True Duals with 4" mufflers.
So overall they're fairly equal.
We don't race but as for fuel consumption they're pretty close.
I think the largest variance between his bike and mine was 3/10ths of a gallon of fuel over 200+ miles so that isn't a lot.
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The 110 has a lower CR than the 103, and it has the 255 cam. It's more powerful than the 103, but not substantially so. There's only so much you can do with this motor in a 900 pound motorcycle.
I have found that the 110 runs substantially hotter than the 103, and it's got more useable grunt down low in the powerband. I would never have paid full price for a CVO, but for what I paid for a used one, it's nice.
I have found that the 110 runs substantially hotter than the 103, and it's got more useable grunt down low in the powerband. I would never have paid full price for a CVO, but for what I paid for a used one, it's nice.
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The 110 has a lower CR than the 103, and it has the 255 cam. It's more powerful than the 103, but not substantially so. There's only so much you can do with this motor in a 900 pound motorcycle.
I have found that the 110 runs substantially hotter than the 103, and it's got more useable grunt down low in the powerband. I would never have paid full price for a CVO, but for what I paid for a used one, it's nice.
I have found that the 110 runs substantially hotter than the 103, and it's got more useable grunt down low in the powerband. I would never have paid full price for a CVO, but for what I paid for a used one, it's nice.
He always complained about the bike running so hot and obviously it was.
Even after the cats were removed and the 103" work was done, and the SERT was installed and the bike was dyno tuned, he still complains about the heat. In fact, his right boot actually has damage done by he heat.
According to him, the bike runs some cooler now but he still complains about the heat.
Even when stock, I never noticed a great amount of heat coming from the engine of my bike unless I'm in town and idling at traffic lights.
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While CVO's have some more power, the reason you buy them is not just the motor. The finish, paint, resale value, accessories, better suspension components etc make them a great deal. If you take a stock touring bike and try to replicate what you get on a factory stock cvo, you will get what I mean. But its got to be something that you want or you will never justify the msrp to yourself
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While I like the Gite and glitter. the thing at the top of list is performance. I have not had any problems at all with my 2009 96ci. However, the 12's and 13 models do have a few updates I would like to have. SE Compensator, oil cooler. Add to that cams and possibly a Fuel Moto 107 ci upgrade which is the biggest I can go without milling the block and welding the crank.
I hate the std wheel that come on the touring models.
All in all I figure 10K to 15K (Including Paint) in improvements on a Std Harley which I probably have 5K worth of improvements already.
We All Know the CVO isn't perfect out the door. Seat, Handlebars, Floor board relocation, and exhaust are at the top of the list.
So, I can Drop a bunch Of Money On a CVO or I can nickle dime what I have up to where I want it.
We all just can't leave well enough alone.
I hate the std wheel that come on the touring models.
All in all I figure 10K to 15K (Including Paint) in improvements on a Std Harley which I probably have 5K worth of improvements already.
We All Know the CVO isn't perfect out the door. Seat, Handlebars, Floor board relocation, and exhaust are at the top of the list.
So, I can Drop a bunch Of Money On a CVO or I can nickle dime what I have up to where I want it.
We all just can't leave well enough alone.
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I was also looking to upgrade to a CVO 110, my 2011 Road Glide Ultra w/103" with some exhaust, intake, and 54H cams runs almost identical to the stock 110", I realize with the same mods the 110 should spank the 103. I took a overnight demo ride on a 2011 CVO Road Glide Ultra and the fit and finish is #10 on the scale, but so is the trade for price. It is a tough call unless $ are not an issue.
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