trans ID
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trans ID
Hey all, newbie here, just picked a basket case, big basket too. Got a 69 FLH Kidney Shovel engine, an aftermarket rigid frame, no idea who built it, it's at least 20 years old from the title, it's not a weld on swing arm, and what appears to be a 64 pan trans. the trans numbers are 34703 64. My question is if any body can tell me about this trans, I'm thinking 3 speed. I can't seem to find it in my Donnys unofficial guide to HD. I've found just about every number but this one. The bike is a typical conflagration, old, not so old and not sure. Typical basket case. Seems to be a two to three inches over narrow glide with straight leg frame, and smaller fat bobs. Looked like a pretty fun project. Putting it together now to see what I got and what's missing. Looks like S&S jugs, super B carb and stock generator and distributor. Has a belt drive primary and a chain to the wheel with a rear disc that looks like it come from an FX model something. Sold my 67 pan shovel 18 years ago and bought a house for the little woman and the kids. Well the kids are grown and the little woman said sure why not. Got it in a garage sale, wont say how much but lets say it was almost free. Couldn't believe it myself til I seen my name on the title. My lucky day. Thanks all any help will be greatly appreciated.
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If the transmission has a ratchet lid it is a 4 speed. If it is a jockey lid it could be a 4 speed or a 3 speed and reverse (rare). You would have to pull the lid to tell for sure. The reverse transmission will have an idler gear and a sliding gear.
If the transmission is a 62 or later model there will be a code number on the right front consisting of letters and numbers. These were anti-theft numbers and will only give you the year of the transmission. Here is the list.
YEAR TRANNY#'S
1962 A
1963 A and B
1964 B, C, and D
1965 C and D
1966 D,E,F, and G
1967 D and E
1968 E
1969 E and F
1970 F and G
1971 G and H
1972 H,J, and K
1973 K and L
1974 L,M,and N
1975 N,P, and R
1976 R,T,U, and V
1977 V,W,X
1978 Y,Z
1979 Double Letters
1980 Double Letters
If the transmission is a 62 or later model there will be a code number on the right front consisting of letters and numbers. These were anti-theft numbers and will only give you the year of the transmission. Here is the list.
YEAR TRANNY#'S
1962 A
1963 A and B
1964 B, C, and D
1965 C and D
1966 D,E,F, and G
1967 D and E
1968 E
1969 E and F
1970 F and G
1971 G and H
1972 H,J, and K
1973 K and L
1974 L,M,and N
1975 N,P, and R
1976 R,T,U, and V
1977 V,W,X
1978 Y,Z
1979 Double Letters
1980 Double Letters
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treeratt59 (09-27-2016)
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Photos will help but transmissions are basically the same from the late 30's to 64. In 65 they went to an electric start and the mainshaft was longer. A parts book will be your friend here. Harley part numbers consist in the format 12345-36 (They had an older 4 digit number also). The last two numbers are the model year when the part was first used. If your transmission has 4 studs on the left side it is a 65 and later transmission case. Casting numbers are not part numbers and aren't assigned part numbers until they are machined.
Last edited by FilthyLucre; 10-07-2016 at 12:33 AM.
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treeratt59, welcome to the forum. For 1964 model Panheads H-D used two trans cases: some had casting number 121 35 and some had casting number 34703 64 as yours does. The 34703 64 case was a transition item in readiness for further changes that were introduced for 1965 models. Some 34703 64 cases have casting date codes underneath but some do not.
In June on the H-G forum I posted info about some BT trans cases and I placed a link below. At post #11 there I begin mentioning some differences between 121 35 cases and 34703 64 cases. At post #14 I put pictures of a 34703 65 case. Post #15 shows where additional ID was stamped on the front of cases as of 1962 models.
Eric
http://www.hydra-glide.com/phpBB3/vi...hp?f=2&t=15569
In June on the H-G forum I posted info about some BT trans cases and I placed a link below. At post #11 there I begin mentioning some differences between 121 35 cases and 34703 64 cases. At post #14 I put pictures of a 34703 65 case. Post #15 shows where additional ID was stamped on the front of cases as of 1962 models.
Eric
http://www.hydra-glide.com/phpBB3/vi...hp?f=2&t=15569
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rockher_man (06-27-2020)
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If the transmission has a ratchet lid it is a 4 speed. If it is a jockey lid it could be a 4 speed or a 3 speed and reverse (rare). You would have to pull the lid to tell for sure. The reverse transmission will have an idler gear and a sliding gear.
If the transmission is a 62 or later model there will be a code number on the right front consisting of letters and numbers. These were anti-theft numbers and will only give you the year of the transmission. Here is the list.
YEAR TRANNY#'S
1962 A
1963 A and B
1964 B, C, and D
1965 C and D
1966 D,E,F, and G
1967 D and E
1968 E
1969 E and F
1970 F and G
1971 G and H
1972 H,J, and K
1973 K and L
1974 L,M,and N
1975 N,P, and R
1976 R,T,U, and V
1977 V,W,X
1978 Y,Z
1979 Double Letters
1980 Double Letters
If the transmission is a 62 or later model there will be a code number on the right front consisting of letters and numbers. These were anti-theft numbers and will only give you the year of the transmission. Here is the list.
YEAR TRANNY#'S
1962 A
1963 A and B
1964 B, C, and D
1965 C and D
1966 D,E,F, and G
1967 D and E
1968 E
1969 E and F
1970 F and G
1971 G and H
1972 H,J, and K
1973 K and L
1974 L,M,and N
1975 N,P, and R
1976 R,T,U, and V
1977 V,W,X
1978 Y,Z
1979 Double Letters
1980 Double Letters
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Hi... I know this is an OLD thread, but I am old, with an old bike... I found the "anti theft' code on my 76 FLH and I swear it says S2163....
I noticed the letter "S" is NOT on your list but looks as though it COULD be an early 1976 trans???
I want to rebuild my trans, an there seems to be a 66 to E76 rebuild kit... and a L76 to E77 rebuild kit... I am not sure what the difference is...
but me being me.... I will guess and get the WRONG rebuild kit... *sigh*
What are you thoughts on my "S" Code?
Thanx
TD
I noticed the letter "S" is NOT on your list but looks as though it COULD be an early 1976 trans???
I want to rebuild my trans, an there seems to be a 66 to E76 rebuild kit... and a L76 to E77 rebuild kit... I am not sure what the difference is...
but me being me.... I will guess and get the WRONG rebuild kit... *sigh*
What are you thoughts on my "S" Code?
Thanx
TD
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