Milwaukee 8 or Thunderstroke 111
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I'd suggest you ride both. I test rode the springfield and was a little disappointed with the fit. It just didn't feel right for me. Little things like the windshield position, handlebar placement, and gage layout just didn't work for me in comparison to the road king.
The engine was very nice and smooth, and the acceleration was very nice. The ride was pleasant and the springfield was very stable at speed. I thought the Road King was better at slow speed handling. For me the swoopy fenders and lines of the springfield weren't quite my cup of tea and it looked like there would be a little more body piece removal during normal maintenance, but I didn't really dive into that aspect of the comparison.
Really though, that's all just personal opinion. You might walk away from the comparison differently
The engine was very nice and smooth, and the acceleration was very nice. The ride was pleasant and the springfield was very stable at speed. I thought the Road King was better at slow speed handling. For me the swoopy fenders and lines of the springfield weren't quite my cup of tea and it looked like there would be a little more body piece removal during normal maintenance, but I didn't really dive into that aspect of the comparison.
Really though, that's all just personal opinion. You might walk away from the comparison differently
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I've ridden the Indian 111 (for a couple of days) and frankly my 110 is just as strong or even stronger. I consider the M8 a better /stronger motor than the 110.
Only thing I don't like with the M8 is the fact that you have to lift the tank to replace the plugs. No biggie really.
Only thing I don't like with the M8 is the fact that you have to lift the tank to replace the plugs. No biggie really.
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I'd recommend you ride them both to see/feel the differences first hand. And also recommend thinking long and hard on purchasing an Indian. Maybe they'll be around for a couple few years. Possibly even longer, but I just don't know how they'll be around for very long. Unless maybe they release something that catches on really big, and EVERYONE just has to have one!
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Polaris's financial health doesn't give me the super warm fuzzies. While Indian has been good for them, it also makes Indian attractive as a saleable asset should Polaris need more capital. They are NOT a motorcycle company at heart. (Polaris)
HD does have a history of staying with a general engine family for a long time and the after market supports HD like no other. I can still get new parts for HD engines made in the 30's. 80 years ago. The Thunderstroke is what - 5 years old and backed by a company that already shuttered one motorcycle company this year.
No question for me.
HD does have a history of staying with a general engine family for a long time and the after market supports HD like no other. I can still get new parts for HD engines made in the 30's. 80 years ago. The Thunderstroke is what - 5 years old and backed by a company that already shuttered one motorcycle company this year.
No question for me.
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Polaris took a Victory design that was in the works (Octane) and made it into a bike which sold very well for Indian (scout). Then they turned on Victory and killed them without a second thought.
Spy photos for the bike showed the Octane before the Scout was introduced. It was a big seller for Indian.
VIctory made the Judge for 2 years. It was the first and only Victory that made people sit up and take notice of them, and they killed it without a second thought. Indian motorcycle has a track record of doing this to their customers that dates back to their inception. To date no one knows why.
The list of motorcycle companies that Indian has killed in their wake continues to grow. If you want to trust a company like that, be my guest. I'm sure the bikes themselves are ok. I have ridden one and liked it. After the faux retro thing wore off, meh. I am glad I stuck with Harley.
Spy photos for the bike showed the Octane before the Scout was introduced. It was a big seller for Indian.
VIctory made the Judge for 2 years. It was the first and only Victory that made people sit up and take notice of them, and they killed it without a second thought. Indian motorcycle has a track record of doing this to their customers that dates back to their inception. To date no one knows why.
The list of motorcycle companies that Indian has killed in their wake continues to grow. If you want to trust a company like that, be my guest. I'm sure the bikes themselves are ok. I have ridden one and liked it. After the faux retro thing wore off, meh. I am glad I stuck with Harley.
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Wow, your situation sounds similar to mine. I have a Switchback also. I've test ridden a 2017 RK and was very impressed with it. I haven't ridden the Indian, but like rjj629 noted above, the fit didn't feel right when even sitting on it.
I've upgraded my FLD's suspension with Hagon shocks and Racetech springs and Gold Valve Emulators in the fork. Having also test ridden a 2014 RK, aside from the 107 engine (which is fantastic) the suspension upgrades on the 2017 stood out for me as compared to what I remembered on the 2014. Overall, I thought the M8 RK was outstanding. It handles excellent for a bike of it's mass and the 107 is a nice upgrade from the 103. I've been thinking hard on the new RK. When finances allow, that could very well be my next bike.
I've upgraded my FLD's suspension with Hagon shocks and Racetech springs and Gold Valve Emulators in the fork. Having also test ridden a 2014 RK, aside from the 107 engine (which is fantastic) the suspension upgrades on the 2017 stood out for me as compared to what I remembered on the 2014. Overall, I thought the M8 RK was outstanding. It handles excellent for a bike of it's mass and the 107 is a nice upgrade from the 103. I've been thinking hard on the new RK. When finances allow, that could very well be my next bike.
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M8 will likely be in production for the next 17 years. I am not so sure the Thunder stroke will.
The Indian product is so niche market, even more than Harley is. That limits growth potential and things like market saturation come into play which could ultimately mean the end of the Indian name yet again, It's a the same fate Victory suffered and Victory had the advantage of being its own thing rather than a clone of yesteryear.
The Indian product is so niche market, even more than Harley is. That limits growth potential and things like market saturation come into play which could ultimately mean the end of the Indian name yet again, It's a the same fate Victory suffered and Victory had the advantage of being its own thing rather than a clone of yesteryear.
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