Anyone seen this ? TBW causes death
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 12:55:04 PM
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wdg
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wow if anyone else has heard of this please post a thread thanks for the heads up sorr for there family
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 1:20:36 PM
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mvinc01
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Wow. Gave me chills reading about something like that happening. It does not apply for me, but I would also like to know if anyone else has expereience with the new fly by wire in this respect.
Very sorry for their family's loss.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 1:26:40 PM
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I just read that it was true on another site in Canada. http://boozefighters.ca/ My condolences to the family and the chapter for their loss.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 1:31:07 PM
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The Baron
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My condolences to the involved parties.
I have a question though. Couldn't a guy just pull in the clutch?
This is why I stick to old school carbs and cables. Electrical demons are worthy foes.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 1:37:33 PM
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My condolences to the involved parties.
I have a question though. Couldn't a guy just pull in the clutch?
This is why I stick to old school carbs and cables. Electrical demons are worthy foes.
I thought the very same thing. Pull in the clutch ? hard to say with out being there.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 1:40:00 PM
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The Baron
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For sure, without knowing the situation. Riding MX has given me a habit of always riding with a finger on the front brake and two on the clutch, always, just in case.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 1:45:19 PM
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HOLY CHIT!...so sorry for the lose...not to make light of it but i bet the dealer said it was "normal"...i'd be talking to lawyers real quick
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 1:46:21 PM
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The Baron
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You don't get to be Pres of a club without knowing how to ride a motorcycle. Strange shit.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 1:50:58 PM
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My condolences to the involved parties.
This is why I stick to old school carbs and cables. Electrical demons are worthy foes.
+1
When I first heard about the TBW it was not a good feeling.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 1:52:11 PM
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ripper43
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ORIGINAL: The Baron
For sure, without knowing the situation. Riding MX has given me a habit of always riding with a finger on the front brake and two on the clutch, always, just in case.
Same with me on the fingers. old habits die hard and sometimes thats a good thing.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 2:07:16 PM
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rocknrod
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And they knew it was the TBW how?
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 2:12:25 PM
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And they knew it was the TBW how?
Good question. I would assume that he was riding with someone else that seen it? and the fact that it had been in the shop for this earlier.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 2:13:36 PM
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Even a carb can lock open on you. I've had it happen to me in heavy traffic on my 79. A piece of throttle cable frayed and locked the slide 1/3 open. I pulled in the clutch, let it out, pulled it in, etc. and rode it to a side street and hit the kill button when I could coast.
I've wondered about fly by wire on a bike. Think I trust my current cable setup on an S&S and on the Buel throtle body more.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 2:20:03 PM
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That's really sad. Prayers to the family.
I had my throttle stick and accelerate right after I had my new handlebars put on. Turned out to be that the throttle housing was either too close or too far on the handlebar and not fitting quite right in the handlebar holes. They moved it, and it's been fine for 2500 miles. Still, makes me wonder....
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RE: Anyone seen this ? TBW causes death - 4/1/2008 2:23:48 PM
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outlaw0013
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Profinish posted about this problem on the 29th. It's happened before. Maybe the MOCO will do something about it not that some poor bast*rd lost his life because of it.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 2:24:56 PM
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rocknrod
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Dr.Hess
Even a carb can lock open on you. I've had it happen to me in heavy traffic on my 79. A piece of throttle cable frayed and locked the slide 1/3 open. I pulled in the clutch, let it out, pulled it in, etc. and rode it to a side street and hit the kill button when I could coast.
I've wondered about fly by wire on a bike. Think I trust my current cable setup on an S&S and on the Buel throtle body more.
I too have had a throttle stick on me. Used the clutch until I could kill the bike.
Heck I even had the throttle boss opening up the throttle too much and had to use the clutch, until I realized what the matter was. Cold day - too many clothes etc.
So I really do question this line of thinking.
I mean it's what "some" people love to hear. Like when electricity came out = it killed people...
TBW has been around a long time if anyone really cares to investigate. Not new technology. So when I hear "new fangled thing" I have to laugh.
At any rate it's a shame another brother died on his bike whatever the reason.
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 2:25:43 PM
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Sorry to hear about his death  I hope Sindi makes a full recovery! I never could figure out why Harley would want to go to the expense and trouble to replace the throttle cables anyway, I've never trusted them even on cars, my wifes Hemi ram has it and I hate it! The computer can override any input you give the throttle, burn outs are a thing of the past, shame too, that hemi feels like it would romp if the computer would let it 
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 2:58:09 PM
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That's the main reason I choose a used 05' and stayed away from that. Looked like an accident waiting to happen. All it does is give the bike that clean wireless look, no advantages, just another thing to go wrong.... I am just waiting for the passenger seat frame to break and kill someone on that damn Rocker C. Stupid MOCO needs to take a step back and think about this!
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 3:26:23 PM
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and I complained about the 5th gear whine... Geez, sounds like the 08's have a much bigger problem... My condolences to the family and I hope sindi makes a full and fast recovery..."D"
< Message edited by Xtreme Hawg -- 4/1/2008 5:11:41 PM >
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RE: Anyone seen this - 4/1/2008 3:53:26 PM
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Very sorry to hear of this and all my best for the friends and family.
I am, however, skeptical of the cause being the ETC. There are many, yes many, redundancies to override the ETC in such an event both electrical and mechanical(return springs ). Not saying it didn't happen, but a lot would have to fail to have the ETC lock the throttle open. H-D wouldn't be allowed to put a system on the road that didn't have those many overrides
< Message edited by Chicago Spike -- 4/1/2008 5:37:34 PM >
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