Outdated Suspension Design
#21
I bet any car would have bounced around on that rode. It's a motorcycle!!!! It's seems everyone lately wants to take a cruiser to the limit. Remember these two words when riding a bike beyond its means, "Ground Hurts". The bike was made to cruise and relax. There are other bikes for different rides.
#23
#24
How, pray tell, would Harley make a touring bike with longer travel? And still make it rideable for those under 6-5?
It's a f*&$%ing street bike for Chrisakes. You don't need 6 inches of travel. And if you have Ohlins you're either made of glass or your shocks are set up wrong for your weight.
Honest to God....it seems like the threads lately are the biggest collection of whine-fests I have yet to see. My seat is too slippery. My transmission whines. My bike is bumpy.
Arghhh! These are motorcycles we're talking about!
Good Lord people. Sell the bikes and buy a Lazy Boy!
It's a f*&$%ing street bike for Chrisakes. You don't need 6 inches of travel. And if you have Ohlins you're either made of glass or your shocks are set up wrong for your weight.
Honest to God....it seems like the threads lately are the biggest collection of whine-fests I have yet to see. My seat is too slippery. My transmission whines. My bike is bumpy.
Arghhh! These are motorcycles we're talking about!
Good Lord people. Sell the bikes and buy a Lazy Boy!
#25
How, pray tell, would Harley make a touring bike with longer travel? And still make it rideable for those under 6-5?
It's a f*&$%ing street bike for Chrisakes. You don't need 6 inches of travel. And if you have Ohlins you're either made of glass or your shocks are set up wrong for your weight.
Honest to God....it seems like the threads lately are the biggest collection of whine-fests I have yet to see. My seat is too slippery. My transmission whines. My bike is bumpy.
Arghhh! These are motorcycles we're talking about!
Good Lord people. Sell the bikes and buy a Lazy Boy!
It's a f*&$%ing street bike for Chrisakes. You don't need 6 inches of travel. And if you have Ohlins you're either made of glass or your shocks are set up wrong for your weight.
Honest to God....it seems like the threads lately are the biggest collection of whine-fests I have yet to see. My seat is too slippery. My transmission whines. My bike is bumpy.
Arghhh! These are motorcycles we're talking about!
Good Lord people. Sell the bikes and buy a Lazy Boy!
#27
How, pray tell, would Harley make a touring bike with longer travel? And still make it rideable for those under 6-5?
It's a f*&$%ing street bike for Chrisakes. You don't need 6 inches of travel. And if you have Ohlins you're either made of glass or your shocks are set up wrong for your weight.
Honest to God....it seems like the threads lately are the biggest collection of whine-fests I have yet to see. My seat is too slippery. My transmission whines. My bike is bumpy.
Arghhh! These are motorcycles we're talking about!
Good Lord people. Sell the bikes and buy a Lazy Boy!
It's a f*&$%ing street bike for Chrisakes. You don't need 6 inches of travel. And if you have Ohlins you're either made of glass or your shocks are set up wrong for your weight.
Honest to God....it seems like the threads lately are the biggest collection of whine-fests I have yet to see. My seat is too slippery. My transmission whines. My bike is bumpy.
Arghhh! These are motorcycles we're talking about!
Good Lord people. Sell the bikes and buy a Lazy Boy!
#28
#29
I kinda agree with both sides of the argument, looks vs function, I ride a FLHTKSE and a BMW GS1200 and the roads here in the UK are pretty bad (on the whole, worse than most of the roads between Milwaukee and Sturgis) and I can go down the same roads on both bikes and on the TK it can feel like my fillings are gonna drop out, the GS on the other hand is far more forgiving (no doubt to the extra travel)
My point being, the cost of these things, whether its a roadking, streetglide, FLHTK or the CVO version, WE PAY ENOUGH MONEY FOR THEM TO HAVE OHLINS QUALITY SUSPENSION!!!
My point being, the cost of these things, whether its a roadking, streetglide, FLHTK or the CVO version, WE PAY ENOUGH MONEY FOR THEM TO HAVE OHLINS QUALITY SUSPENSION!!!
#30
Lol. I just said what you (to varying degrees) were thinking. I know you love your bike and have defended it as vigorously. Especially the Infotainment system.
Ordinarily my response, if any at all, would have been more reserved. However, I read this thread after a string of similar threads complaining about things that as a motorcyclist, I have accepted as part of the sport for years. That concept having applied to all my bikes - BMW, KTM, UJM, Brit, Harley, etc. Each bike has it's strengths and weaknesses.
Is a 900+ Harley the best choice for twisty, pot holed roads? Absolutely not. For that I would choose my DR650. Could Harley do better in the suspension department? Obviously. But not by adding (much) travel. A Goldwing has only an inch more. I have installed Ohlins 2.5s on my bike, and it is vastly improved. But, I will still feel it when I hit a pot hole.
In the end, right off the showroom floor, the Rushmore is a fantastic, all around bike with a touring bias. I'm as happy running up to the grocery store as I am carving up the Ozarks, as I am setting the cruise at 85 running super-slab. If the Op has Ohlins on the bike, and they are set up properly, and he doesn't feel the same way, in all honesty he should buy a different bike. Why suffer through the agony of riding the one he has? But I suspect there would be something else to complain about - which is my entire point.
And I never said the word "*****" just to be clear.
As alluded to above and on other threads, I agree. That's why I bought Ohlins for my bike. But, I had to buy them for my GS too. I'm not sure what they run now, but when I had my GS in 2007, everyone had the exact same complaint - Why should we have to pay for decent shocks on our BMWs?
The answer is the same for them as it is for Harley - because they know they will sell just as many bikes with the crap shocks as Ohlins. On a production cost analysis, adding that much cost to their bikes is like a bullet to the head. Hell, they sweat pennies. We're talking dollars.
Ordinarily my response, if any at all, would have been more reserved. However, I read this thread after a string of similar threads complaining about things that as a motorcyclist, I have accepted as part of the sport for years. That concept having applied to all my bikes - BMW, KTM, UJM, Brit, Harley, etc. Each bike has it's strengths and weaknesses.
Is a 900+ Harley the best choice for twisty, pot holed roads? Absolutely not. For that I would choose my DR650. Could Harley do better in the suspension department? Obviously. But not by adding (much) travel. A Goldwing has only an inch more. I have installed Ohlins 2.5s on my bike, and it is vastly improved. But, I will still feel it when I hit a pot hole.
In the end, right off the showroom floor, the Rushmore is a fantastic, all around bike with a touring bias. I'm as happy running up to the grocery store as I am carving up the Ozarks, as I am setting the cruise at 85 running super-slab. If the Op has Ohlins on the bike, and they are set up properly, and he doesn't feel the same way, in all honesty he should buy a different bike. Why suffer through the agony of riding the one he has? But I suspect there would be something else to complain about - which is my entire point.
And I never said the word "*****" just to be clear.
I kinda agree with both sides of the argument, looks vs function, I ride a FLHTKSE and a BMW GS1200 and the roads here in the UK are pretty bad (on the whole, worse than most of the roads between Milwaukee and Sturgis) and I can go down the same roads on both bikes and on the TK it can feel like my fillings are gonna drop out, the GS on the other hand is far more forgiving (no doubt to the extra travel)
My point being, the cost of these things, whether its a roadking, streetglide, FLHTK or the CVO version, WE PAY ENOUGH MONEY FOR THEM TO HAVE OHLINS QUALITY SUSPENSION!!!
My point being, the cost of these things, whether its a roadking, streetglide, FLHTK or the CVO version, WE PAY ENOUGH MONEY FOR THEM TO HAVE OHLINS QUALITY SUSPENSION!!!
The answer is the same for them as it is for Harley - because they know they will sell just as many bikes with the crap shocks as Ohlins. On a production cost analysis, adding that much cost to their bikes is like a bullet to the head. Hell, they sweat pennies. We're talking dollars.
Last edited by nevada72; 06-28-2015 at 07:57 AM.