Car Tire on my 07 Night Train
lmao
As a tire dealer, with 40 years experience, I should think you would be aware car tires can be purchased with a wide variety of compounds, befitting the application. Plus many of the Dunlop tires installed on motorcycles are dual compound (harder in the center, softer on the sides). I thought this was common knowledge...and as most riding is done on a very small footprint in the center of the tire....
Hog, you lost me way before you said you would 'refuse to sell me a car tire for my motorcycle.' lol Not only is your reasoning misguided, you obviously know little of Harley's motorcycle tire history and you have no personal experience to add to the discussion.
And oh yeah..."Sure you'd refuse to sell us a car tire eh!" (wink, wink) roflmao
Hey, how about a nice set of OEM Firestones for my Explorer?
Lee
As a tire dealer, with 40 years experience, I should think you would be aware car tires can be purchased with a wide variety of compounds, befitting the application. Plus many of the Dunlop tires installed on motorcycles are dual compound (harder in the center, softer on the sides). I thought this was common knowledge...and as most riding is done on a very small footprint in the center of the tire....
Hog, you lost me way before you said you would 'refuse to sell me a car tire for my motorcycle.' lol Not only is your reasoning misguided, you obviously know little of Harley's motorcycle tire history and you have no personal experience to add to the discussion.
And oh yeah..."Sure you'd refuse to sell us a car tire eh!" (wink, wink) roflmao
Hey, how about a nice set of OEM Firestones for my Explorer?
Lee
Haven't you ever heard of a liability lawsuit????....if you don't believe they exist ask McDonalds...Remember the hot coffee....I started riding Cushman Eagle Motorscooters....the first Harley I had was a "Hummer"....Remember them....it was a 165CC...I think I have a considerable amount of experience....Ride your bike with a steel wagon tire if you wish.....I choose what comes on them....The tire engineers are a lot smarter than me.....I'm not sure about you though.....
(a) you admit you have no experience with a car tire on a bike. Your choice, I can live with it but why bother posting when you have nothing to contribute except ingorance?
b) Yeah... sure you wouldn't sell a biker a car tire...lmao
C) And here's the biggie... You weren't aware and won't acknowledge you are dead wrong regarding compounds.
Look, I don't care how long you been riding. Means squat to me. I been riding over 30 years and I had no idea a car tire would work till I tried it. "Tried it." You catch that part? I asked questions, did some homework, talked to others who had tried it and "then made a decision."
I didn't sit back and say can't be done, cause I didn't know.
Put a tire on and continue with the discussion or don't put a tire on and ride. I really couldn't care either way.
Have a good day and ride safe.
Lee
i changed from a motorcycle tire to a car tire on my Hoss. i had a non stock 18inch wheel for motorcycle tire. to change to a car tire i had to change the wheel. the stock BH bike can go from a stock Avon Motorcycle tire that is made especially for use on the Hoss, to a car tire.
but you cannot, from all info i was able to find, change from a motorcycle tire to a car tire without changing the wheel. the shape of the bead of the wheel is considerably different between a motorcycle tire wheel and a car tire wheel.
from me, i will never go back either. i as well as several others use as a Sumitomo 245 / 35 / 18
good luck and remember, if you try a car tire on a motorcycle wheel, it is only your life your playing with.
Darryl
but you cannot, from all info i was able to find, change from a motorcycle tire to a car tire without changing the wheel. the shape of the bead of the wheel is considerably different between a motorcycle tire wheel and a car tire wheel.
from me, i will never go back either. i as well as several others use as a Sumitomo 245 / 35 / 18
good luck and remember, if you try a car tire on a motorcycle wheel, it is only your life your playing with.
Darryl
Technically i think the Sumitomo 245 / 35 / 18 that was mentioned would fit on a rocker, but u will most likely run into a clearance issue because the fender is mounted to the swing arm and contoured for the shape of a mc tire. either a heartland style fender might help or going with a tire that is not as tall. Keep us updated about how your searching goes!!
I generally want to go faster than most everyone else on the twisties (that I ride with).
You and I have GOT to ride together someday!!! Go, Bob, go!!!
I see most of the Darksiders have the same opinion; the resistance to oversteer is a boon to the sweepers
causing the bike to hold a line better at speed. I know many times I've oversteered (oversteern?) a curve and
had to correct quickly - I understand the concept.
I see most of the Darksiders have the same opinion; the resistance to oversteer is a boon to the sweepers
causing the bike to hold a line better at speed. I know many times I've oversteered (oversteern?) a curve and
had to correct quickly - I understand the concept.
Last edited by Quadancer; Jun 22, 2010 at 06:26 AM.
Good news for 09 and newer Electra Glides and other HD's with the 180mm rear tire. A fellow rider has successfully put 3k miles on his 09 EG riding one and two up on a Bridgestone Turanza EL400-02 at 37 psi and running Dyna Beads. He states none of his riding buddy's can keep up with him in the rain except for one on a VTX with a CT
Probably not the best pic but you get the idea on how it looks. He was motivated by having to change his rear tire every 3-4 months so you know he's a serious rider. He's happy with the ride in general.

As a side note I noticed the 195/55R-16 is a "Low Rolling Resistant" tire if that's important to someone. It will increase rpm's at any given speed and make the bike quicker off the line as well. I would probably go with it but that's just me.
Probably not the best pic but you get the idea on how it looks. He was motivated by having to change his rear tire every 3-4 months so you know he's a serious rider. He's happy with the ride in general.

As a side note I noticed the 195/55R-16 is a "Low Rolling Resistant" tire if that's important to someone. It will increase rpm's at any given speed and make the bike quicker off the line as well. I would probably go with it but that's just me.
Last edited by BoomerBob; Jun 22, 2010 at 05:26 PM.
So, In regards to mileage on a rear tire. Some are saying they have to put a tire on every 3-4 months. WOW...
I can only speak for what mileage I get out of a tire, but it's around 12,000 -13,000 miles on both a 2003 FXDWG & 2009 FLHTCU. That being said (check my math) you would have to be putting 4K a month (+/- 50K yr.) on a tire. Again WOW...don't you have a job to go to? There just doesn't seem to be enough time for that many miles, working, taking care of the house, the dogs, the wife etc...
I can certainly understand why you would want something that lasts longer (mileage wise). It would seem like a never ending thing, just to keep up with the tire changing alone.
I can only speak for what mileage I get out of a tire, but it's around 12,000 -13,000 miles on both a 2003 FXDWG & 2009 FLHTCU. That being said (check my math) you would have to be putting 4K a month (+/- 50K yr.) on a tire. Again WOW...don't you have a job to go to? There just doesn't seem to be enough time for that many miles, working, taking care of the house, the dogs, the wife etc...
I can certainly understand why you would want something that lasts longer (mileage wise). It would seem like a never ending thing, just to keep up with the tire changing alone.
So, In regards to mileage on a rear tire. Some are saying they have to put a tire on every 3-4 months. WOW...
I can only speak for what mileage I get out of a tire, but it's around 12,000 -13,000 miles on both a 2003 FXDWG & 2009 FLHTCU. That being said (check my math) you would have to be putting 4K a month (+/- 50K yr.) on a tire. Again WOW...don't you have a job to go to? There just doesn't seem to be enough time for that many miles, working, taking care of the house, the dogs, the wife etc...
I can certainly understand why you would want something that lasts longer (mileage wise). It would seem like a never ending thing, just to keep up with the tire changing alone.
I can only speak for what mileage I get out of a tire, but it's around 12,000 -13,000 miles on both a 2003 FXDWG & 2009 FLHTCU. That being said (check my math) you would have to be putting 4K a month (+/- 50K yr.) on a tire. Again WOW...don't you have a job to go to? There just doesn't seem to be enough time for that many miles, working, taking care of the house, the dogs, the wife etc...
I can certainly understand why you would want something that lasts longer (mileage wise). It would seem like a never ending thing, just to keep up with the tire changing alone.
On his 09 FL I don't know what mileage he was getting. I would think he would get at least 9k out of an HD touring tire. The Softail wide tires are made of a soft compound (for a MT) so they typically get around 6k.
It does sound like he's a ridin' fool don't it! Must be retired and able to ride year round.
Btw; here's a side by side pic of the stock NT 200mm tire and the 205 CT.






