2006 dyna 8 degree injectors
I have been looking at lots of things here on the forum (very impressed) and ran across the 8 degree and 25 degree debate. I went out the the garage and looked and I have the 8 degree part #. The bike runs great (some popping on decel), should I bring this issue up to the dealer to upgrade them to the 25's ?????? or just leave well enough alone.
Let me know what you guys think or have done in this situation. Thanks Brandon |
RE: 2006 dyna 8 degree injectors
I had mine changed out at the 1000 mile service........much better performance and no charge so why not?:eek:
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RE: 2006 dyna 8 degree injectors
Take the bike for a test ride.
Whenever I ride in a parking lot and try to hold the throttle steady at 18-20MPH (first gear) the bike surges like crazy. I'm taking it in next week for the injectors and am hoping it fixes it. |
RE: 2006 dyna 8 degree injectors
I've got 8's and my bike runs PERFECTLY. No need for me to change anything. There are many others on this forum that run the 8's as well. It really all depends on how your bike runs.
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RE: 2006 dyna 8 degree injectors
I just got mine chnaged out...much better that the 8s. Mine ran great with the 8s for while but after 4k developed some problems.
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RE: 2006 dyna 8 degree injectors
After reading the posts on the forum, I called my dealer about the 8's verses the 25's. My bike is a mid-year 05' FXDLI (mfg. 3/05). They said they would check and if they are the 8's, they would be replaced under warranty. I had the Stage I and Python's installed at delivery but it has always "popped" on decel and will surge slightly at low speeds. My question is this: Most of you are reporting this issue on the 06's. Was the 05's included as well? The dealer knows the year of my bike and did not hesitate about offering to check it out.
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RE: 2006 dyna 8 degree injectors
The issue was with the 06 FI Dynas....it's not a recall but a TSB. But if you are having issues your dealer should have it fixed N/C.
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RE: 2006 dyna 8 degree injectors
M-1185 1 of 2
SERVICE BULLETIN M-1185 February 20, 2006 FUEL INJECTOR/CALIBRATION CHANGES FOR 2006 1450cc BIG TWINS ® Purpose It has recently been determined that the 8 ° angle cone spray fuel injectors used on 2006 1450cc Big Twins may cause cold start and/or driveability problems on some motorcycles. In the interest of promoting customer satisfaction, the 25 ° angle cone spray fuel injectors used on CVO 103 cu. in. (1690cc) motors will be installed on all production Big Twins beginning on or around February 13, 2006. Additionally, Harley-Davidson will provide for the installation of 25 ° angle cone spray fuel injectors on those motorcycles where use of the 8 ° fuel injectors (part number 27625-06) is determined to be directly responsible for cold start and/or driveability problems. See REQUIRED DEALER ACTION. NOTE Due to changes in the manufacturing process, the part number of the 25 ° angle cone spray fuel injector is changing from 27709-06 to 27709-06A. This fuel injector also will be stamped with the words “25 DEG” for easy identification. See Figure 1. Motorcycles Affected Only 2006 1450cc Big Twin model motorcycles that exhibit cold start and/or driveability problems directly related to use of 8° angle cone spray fuel injectors (including those subsequently equipped with P&A Screamin’ Eagle 1450cc or 1550cc Performance Kits). Required Dealer Action 1. Adhere to the flow chart in Figure 2 when handling customer complaints regarding cold start and/or driveability problems on affected motorcycles. 2. If the flow chart indicates that the fuel injectors are the source of the problem, check the part numbers stamped on the fuel injectors. While standing on the left side of the motorcycle, the part number on the rear fuel injector can be easily read with the aid of a flashlight. 3. If required, remove both 8 ° angle cone spray fuel injectors following the procedure in the applicable 2006 Service Manual. Install 25 ° fuel injectors, either part number 27709-06 or 27709-06A. Figure 1. Fuel Injector Part Numbers f2447x8x Old Style 8° Fuel Injector New Style 25° Fuel Injector NOZZLE END IMPORTANT NOTE In the interest of preserving customer safety and satisfaction, always check for outstanding recalls whenever any motorcycle is brought into your dealership for either maintenance or service. ©2006 HARLEY-DAVIDSON MOTOR COMPANY ROUTING SERVICE MANAGER SALES MANAGER PARTS MANAGER LEAD TECHNICIAN TECHNICIAN NO.1 TECHNICIAN NO. 2 TECHNICIAN NO. 3 TECHNICIAN NO. 4 RETURN THIS TO INITIAL HERE M-1185 2 of 2 NOTE Always replace both 8 ° angle cone spray fuel injectors on affected motorcycles. Never mix 8 ° and 25 ° fuel injectors on the same motorcycle. NOTE If the part numbers on the fuel injectors are rubbed off or otherwise unreadable, count the number of orifices or holes in the injector nozzle. The 8 ° angle cone spray fuel injector has just three holes, while the 25 ° has six. See NOZZLE END in Figure 1. 4. Update the ECM calibration. For those motorcycles equipped with P&A Screamin’ Eagle 1450cc or 1550cc Performance Kits, refer to h-dnet.com for the correct calibration P/N. Credit Procedure Complete a separate warranty claim for each vehicle serviced. Reference Service Bulletin M-1185 in the “Comments” or “Notes” section and be sure to include the VIN of the vehicle on which the service was performed. Fill in the rest of the claim as follows: Performance calibrations require pre-authorization from Technical Service to be considered for warranty coverage unless listed on the SWR. Upon receipt of the properly completed claim, you will receive the labor credit shown above. Figure 2. Cold Start/Driveability Flow Chart Correct condition or install com |
RE: 2006 dyna 8 degree injectors
this guy (KB) has an above average dealer ...I have the 8s and my runs well too when I inquired about the change with
the dealer they wanted to "look" at it and see how it was performing,I.E. starts and surges I knew it was fine and was not going to lie about it nor argue the point ...I may be mistaken but each injector is 92 dollars out of pocket I stayed with the crazy 8s-phucum ORIGINAL: KBFXDLI I had mine changed out at the 1000 mile service........much better performance and no charge so why not?:eek: |
RE: 2006 dyna 8 degree injectors
ORIGINAL: scarab75 I have been looking at lots of things here on the forum (very impressed) and ran across the 8 degree and 25 degree debate. I went out the the garage and looked and I have the 8 degree part #. The bike runs great (some popping on decel), should I bring this issue up to the dealer to upgrade them to the 25's ?????? or just leave well enough alone. Let me know what you guys think or have done in this situation. Thanks Brandon |
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