2012 Dyna Fat Bob ---no tuner available-- what now?
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Um no. You can change the a/c. The computer will compensate for the added air by adding fuel. Just because you ad air doesn't mean it will burn lean. The computer is always recalibrating the a/f mix to whatever the factory deemed optimum. Free flow exhaust and air cleaner won't affect anything. The ecu will compensate. It's not a carburetor.
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Um no. You can change the a/c. The computer will compensate for the added air by adding fuel. Just because you ad air doesn't mean it will burn lean. The computer is always recalibrating the a/f mix to whatever the factory deemed optimum. Free flow exhaust and air cleaner won't affect anything. The ecu will compensate. It's not a carburetor.
Adding exhaust won't do much to change the volumetric efficiency, but a high-flow air cleaner setup will. More that what can be compensated for by the stock programming. If a bike has injectors that put out fuel in the lower range of the tolerance, and airflow is increased, a lean condition will occur that the stock ECM cannot deal with. This will cause issues with long term reliability.
At minimum a Stage 1 program should be added.
If you're a fair weather rider and don't care about long-term reliability (20k miles plus), then go right ahead. If not, then don't add the A/C until you have a solution for fueling.
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The Results are in: This is from a 2012 Dyna Fat Bob with the new 2012 stock wideband O2 and new stock 2012 ECM with stock air cleaner. Everything is bone stock with the exception of a V&H Big Radius 2x2 added. This is from my first ride with the pipes just added. 30+ miles on the freeway with moderate-heavy riding and a few hard pulls...
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Yea. Like others have stated, youre probably fine with just the pipes. The ecm is compensating for the pipes within its parameters. Im really not sure about those deposits. Can you tell what they are? Like run them between your thumb and forefinger. Im sure someone with more knowledge will chime in but if they are hard it would make me a lil concerned.
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Yea. Like others have stated, youre probably fine with just the pipes. The ecm is compensating for the pipes within its parameters. Im really not sure about those deposits. Can you tell what they are? Like run them between your thumb and forefinger. Im sure someone with more knowledge will chime in but if they are hard it would make me a lil concerned.