Replacing lifters without replacing oem solid pushrods?? Don't want to open Rocker
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Replacing lifters without replacing oem solid pushrods?? Don't want to open Rocker
I am getting some different opinions.. My question is: Can new lifters be installed without cutting the original solid pushrods and without opening the rocker.
The way I understand is that in order to get the lifters out, the pushrods have to be cut if I didn't want to open the rocker. Then just use adjustable pushrods.
I spoke to tech at S&S and he advised that if I am opening the lifter blocks (leaking gaskets) then S&S adjustables can be installed.
At the same time, I am considering mild cam and cam bearings. This is for a 97 EVO .
thanks
The way I understand is that in order to get the lifters out, the pushrods have to be cut if I didn't want to open the rocker. Then just use adjustable pushrods.
I spoke to tech at S&S and he advised that if I am opening the lifter blocks (leaking gaskets) then S&S adjustables can be installed.
At the same time, I am considering mild cam and cam bearings. This is for a 97 EVO .
thanks
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Glide is correct... Now, if you are a newbie to Harley motor work and want to cut the pushrods to save time and money that's fine but you will not be able to just swap out the Standard S&S adjustables, It requires removing the cam cover and finagling the lifters blocks (with the lifters in them and trying to install the lifters, blocks, pushrods and tubes)and still manage to get everything timed properly.... Not an easy task for a newbie because the Standards do not have as much adjustment as the quickies... So I suggest you get the quickie pushrods... They have more adjustment to them making it a lot easier to do the swap.... And don't forget the Factory Service Manual, FSM....
One more thing, If you are a first timer I would take the time and do it by removing the Tanks, rockers etc... It's not that time consuming and is a lot less aggravating... And if you do go with a performance cam stick with new adjustables so you cam set the preload to .140".. Good luck....
One more thing, If you are a first timer I would take the time and do it by removing the Tanks, rockers etc... It's not that time consuming and is a lot less aggravating... And if you do go with a performance cam stick with new adjustables so you cam set the preload to .140".. Good luck....
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Hotrod speaks the truth. If you're going to go with adjustable pushrods, go with the "quick install" type. The others will require removal of the rocker boxes to install anyway, and you get the disadvantages of adjustable pushrods (possibility of one coming loose) with none of the advantages (ease of cam/lifter servicing).
If you DO cut the pushrods, use a bolt cutter, not a saw or die grinder.
If you DO cut the pushrods, use a bolt cutter, not a saw or die grinder.
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Wow, you guys know your Sh....stuff.
Thanks, and as noted I'm new to Harley motor work. I've been a Harley owner since my first one 96 springer..bought it brand new when I was 24. I've just never kept one long enough for high miles. Just having the strong erge now to jump back onto an EVO. I think the Evolution was the best engine that Harley built (IMO). I've done just about everything else to a Harley except the motor, so kinda looking foward to getting to know the Evo a little better.
Thanks, and as noted I'm new to Harley motor work. I've been a Harley owner since my first one 96 springer..bought it brand new when I was 24. I've just never kept one long enough for high miles. Just having the strong erge now to jump back onto an EVO. I think the Evolution was the best engine that Harley built (IMO). I've done just about everything else to a Harley except the motor, so kinda looking foward to getting to know the Evo a little better.
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Wow, you guys know your Sh....stuff.
Thanks, and as noted I'm new to Harley motor work. I've been a Harley owner since my first one 96 springer..bought it brand new when I was 24. I've just never kept one long enough for high miles. Just having the strong erge now to jump back onto an EVO. I think the Evolution was the best engine that Harley built (IMO). I've done just about everything else to a Harley except the motor, so kinda looking foward to getting to know the Evo a little better.
Thanks, and as noted I'm new to Harley motor work. I've been a Harley owner since my first one 96 springer..bought it brand new when I was 24. I've just never kept one long enough for high miles. Just having the strong erge now to jump back onto an EVO. I think the Evolution was the best engine that Harley built (IMO). I've done just about everything else to a Harley except the motor, so kinda looking foward to getting to know the Evo a little better.
If your bike is typical, it's probably getting a little weepy by now at the base gaskets. If so, this is the perfect opportunity to pull the top end and re-gasket her with modern gaskets.
Then, as long as you are in there...new, high compression pistons, five angle valve job, head porting, etc, etc, etc.
(Our hobby is spending your money...)
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You're in the right place!!
If your bike is typical, it's probably getting a little weepy by now at the base gaskets. If so, this is the perfect opportunity to pull the top end and re-gasket her with modern gaskets.
Then, as long as you are in there...new, high compression pistons, five angle valve job, head porting, etc, etc, etc.
(Our hobby is spending your money...)
If your bike is typical, it's probably getting a little weepy by now at the base gaskets. If so, this is the perfect opportunity to pull the top end and re-gasket her with modern gaskets.
Then, as long as you are in there...new, high compression pistons, five angle valve job, head porting, etc, etc, etc.
(Our hobby is spending your money...)
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Thanks guys.
Looks like I'm going to start ordering stuff. I'm looking at either andrews ev13 or ev27, hylift lifters, s&s quickies, torrington bearings.
How is this sounding to you boys?
In what order would you do this work? Also want to replace the lifter block gaskets..they're weeping.
Looks like I'm going to start ordering stuff. I'm looking at either andrews ev13 or ev27, hylift lifters, s&s quickies, torrington bearings.
How is this sounding to you boys?
In what order would you do this work? Also want to replace the lifter block gaskets..they're weeping.
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Wow, you guys know your Sh....stuff.
Thanks, and as noted I'm new to Harley motor work. I've been a Harley owner since my first one 96 springer..bought it brand new when I was 24. I've just never kept one long enough for high miles. Just having the strong erge now to jump back onto an EVO. I think the Evolution was the best engine that Harley built (IMO). I've done just about everything else to a Harley except the motor, so kinda looking foward to getting to know the Evo a little better.
Thanks, and as noted I'm new to Harley motor work. I've been a Harley owner since my first one 96 springer..bought it brand new when I was 24. I've just never kept one long enough for high miles. Just having the strong erge now to jump back onto an EVO. I think the Evolution was the best engine that Harley built (IMO). I've done just about everything else to a Harley except the motor, so kinda looking foward to getting to know the Evo a little better.