'96 EFI and PClll - anybody ever try it?
 

was just wondering if anybody has ever tried it. I realize that Dynojet says only '97-'98 and to do that on my RK I would have to change the ECM to those years but is it physically impossible to connect to the'96? The PC lll just piggy backs on the ECM. I'm sure there are no maps for this setup either but the PC lll is adjustable. What is the differance in a '96 ECM verses '97-'98 with stock setup loaded on both. I see there are used '97 ECM's for sale but you don't know whats on them until after you buy it - then you have to take it and get it red and possibly reflashed. I have gone beyond the limitations of the DFO that I had been using and need to go to the next level without spending alot.
thanks

I do know the pins that connects the ECM to the harness are not in the same location on the 96 as it is on the 98 model as I switched one out for the other on a 96 E Glide. Try to find some on ebay under "engine wiring" and look at the pins on the ECM connector.

Guy with the 98 was going to carb and the guy with the 96 was having EFI issues. We converted the 98 to carb and them swapped out the wiring harness on the 96 with the 98 harness.

Swapped the manifold also as he was running the red topped injectors on the 98. The 96 runs well and it was about 2 yrs or so ago by now.

Griz

I don't believe any after market tuner will work with the MMI, however both S&S and H-D sell a replacement module which is tunable. The S&S one is sold as a VFI Module kit. I don't know how it compares in cost with a PC3, but also look up the HD one, which I understand is the same as the S&S and may be cheaper. That way you have a single module, not a piggy-back.

I have a 96 Ultra Classic with PC III, it was there when I bought it. The map that it had, had this information in it.
1340 EVO
EV 27 CAM
SUPERTRAP MUFFLERS / BREATHER
1996 BIKE WITH 97-98 ECM

I called DynoJet, and the guy I spoke with said that the PC III would work with some 96s and some it wouldn't, and they recommended the 97-98 ECM
Mine works good.

well the VFI module is $620. About the same as a used '97 ECM and a PClll and possible reflash. Their web site says very little about what it can do. Also not sure if it's as popular with tuners as the PClll is. I didn't get to far trying to find info on H-D replacement module. May someone has a part #.

Dynojet said there PC lll would work on some '96's. interesting! I wonder which models?

OK I think I found the part # - Blank ECM 41000012A. I just cant tell if this will fit my '96. Also it being blank I assume it would have to be installed then tuned by a H-D dealer?

97-98 used ECM's can be purchased cheap and almost giving them away after chit canning the M&M, can also get a PC3 cheap used. The original question on the 96 ECM compatability, I don't know but the connector has to be the same because the 97-98 will hook into the same 96 wire harness.

I ran a PC3 for several years, went to a carb, sold the PC3 for $75 and still have the 97 ECM, can't see dumping $600 into the M&M system for new stuff. If you check out the maps on Dynojet, the Evo canned map section is weak and not much to work with.

I have a spare 96 flh setup. Only thing not there is timer, cps and temp sensor. (Left them in the bike when I converted. Black top injectors. Would even come with the complete fuel tank.

I would check with fuel moto & see what they have to say or can hook you up with , But I do know the 98 MMI & pc111 work together my Brother has that set up & has since 98 & loves it

I have the PC 2 on my EFI 98 with the ECM that run well Still on bike. I also have a S&S module not going to use and never have. i am going carb Let me know what you need The pc2 works with the 98 I just leave the bottons were i can get to them easy tune on a hot day to fatten up a little. All the stuff is in CT not VT though