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Old 10-08-2017, 03:19 PM
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You bought a 2017 Harley and then asked the internet on cornering tips?
 
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Originally Posted by upflying
Keep your eyes up and look behind you during low speed turns. Gray area clutch and throttle, drag the rear brake.


It sounds like you've been doing slow speed parking lot practice type stuff. The above statement is good advice for slow speed maneuvers. If you're doing figure 8 type practice, you should turn your head a lot more than you think, which is what I think upflying means by "look behind you". I'll add you might need to use higher revs than you think, which of course will mean using more rear brake, This actually makes it easier to keep the bike upright. Many find slow RH turns a little more difficult because if they are using the clutch, throttle & brake technique, the clutch is further away from you when turning right.
 
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Find a fellow (or gal) that knows how to ride and play mother duck and duckling until you get the hang of it. Taking turns is riding 101. Learn the late apex, the pace, and slow in/fast out.
 
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Find a fellow (or gal) that knows how to ride and play mother duck and duckling until you get the hang of it. Taking turns is riding 101. Learn the late apex, the pace, and slow in/fast out.
Those are advanced techniques, let's get this rider's fundamentals down pat first. Too much, too soon can be counter productive.
 
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Originally Posted by Daytona Fat Boy


It sounds like you've been doing slow speed parking lot practice type stuff. The above statement is good advice for slow speed maneuvers. If you're doing figure 8 type practice, you should turn your head a lot more than you think, which is what I think upflying means by "look behind you". I'll add you might need to use higher revs than you think, which of course will mean using more rear brake, This actually makes it easier to keep the bike upright. Many find slow RH turns a little more difficult because if they are using the clutch, throttle & brake technique, the clutch is further away from you when turning right.
Thanks, I practiced slow speed stuff for 14 years. Some of the difference in the difficulty in right or left turns is neurological. It's how we were hard wired since birth. Inner ear, estuation tubes, equilibrium and sense of balance is not exactly the same on both sides.
 

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krielly66. Kudos for coming on here asking for tips!
Just to let you know you're not alone, slow speed right handers have been a struggle for me since I started riding some 35 years ago. Best advice I can give is to take an advanced motorcycle course using sommeone elses bike. A quick google search showed there's at least one in Vermont. Having taken several couses myself, I can tell you they are invaluable. The last class I took was given by a police motorcycle instructor, using his bikes. He repeatedly said you are going to wreck during this course and I want you to wreck using my bikes at slow speeds rather than your own at higher speeds in traffic. I must've wrecked a dozen times, but by the end of the couse, I had better bike control than I ever thought possible.

http://www.motorcycle-vermont.com/fr...ery-level/#ERC
 
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Ride like a pro is the way to go.
 
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One reason right-hand slow-speed turns are more difficult is because your clutch hand is "out there" reaching while you're slipping the clutch. Bit more difficult to modulate when your left arm is at full extension. Just start with wide right turns and continue to practice and refine. There's no "aha" moment when you start doing 10' circles, it's a gradual process that takes time and repetition.

Eyes up, counterweight and drag the rear brake - just like everybody recommends. Any 180 turn tighter than 18' is probably fine in real life, so don't beat yourself up.
 
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I took the basic MSF, advanced MSF, and sport bike rider course. Those all boosted my confidence in cornering and slow maneuvers.
 
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