natural gas isn't necessarily "non-renewable." natural gas is mostly methane, and there are plenty of biological sources of methane gas. Like, for example, landfills, or the bacteria in your colon after a good meal of beans and cabbage.

 

 

 

Show me some proof it exists today.. usually its marketing hype and not reality.

 

graphene lithium ion batteries

Samsung graphene battery

 

The problem for Harley is there are so many excellent street fighters just like this on the market at resonable prices, at least for the Japanese manufacturers. When you add in offerings from Aprilia, Ducati, KTM and other European manufacturers it's already a crowded marketplace. Harley needs to deliver a bike that compete with the best of them on a first time out, and do it at a price point that is competitive. They never had to deal with competition before in the cruiser/bagger market. This is no small task.

 

That's been my point all along. I never said that Harley shouldn't try to compete in new markets. But the "streetfighter" and "adventure bike" markets are already crowded with excellent offerings from other makers. Unlike the heavy cruiser and touring markets, the "Harley-Davidson" nameplate alone won't sell in these markets without competitive performance and price to back it up. Competitive pricing probably entails more foreign manufacturing to keep profit margins acceptable to the stockholders.

And, let's be honest, Harley isn't generally known for being "the fastest machine out there," at least not within the memory of most of the potential customers for these new bikes. These customers aren't loyal to the name on the tank. This means that Harley has an uphill battle from the outset.

 

Anybody know the price on this bike?

 

Your story about LED lights is false. the LED was invented in 1962. I personally own a stereo made by Yamaha in 1976 that uses LEDs to light the dials. LED light bulbs for houses were around in the 90s but no one wanted to pay price until the government mandated them. Now I pay 10x as much for light bulb that doesn't last any longer than an incandescent bulb.

 

stop buying cheap junk LEDs. I've been on all LED light bulbs for years now (using ones from real names like Philips, Cree, etc.) and only had one failure. and that was a bulb rated for 25,000 hours which died after about 31,000 hours of being on constantly.

oh, and he said "LED lighting." not "LEDs." yes, we've had those dim red and yellow green things since forever, but it's only been within the last 10 years or so where we've had the high power diodes (and heat management) for LEDs to displace 60 to 100 watt incandescent lamps.