E3 Spark Plugs PROBLEM!
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E3 Spark Plugs PROBLEM!
WELL I got a problem. A while back I got some of the E3 spark plugs for my '04 Electraglide. The design looked cool so I thought I would run them to see what happened. I wasn't having any problems with the bike, it was running fine. I have been using NGK plugs for quite some time. Anyway, I put in the E3 plugs and rode the bike for 20 minutes, it was a cold day. Next day I thought maybe I would see what the electrodes looked like. Well, the plugs went in without any problems but when I tried to remove the plug in the rear cylinder, it only turned out about 3/4 turn and stopped. The engine was ambient air temp. I figured I would run it again and try to unscrew the plug when hot. Did that today, but it still wouldn't unscrew. I could have left the plug in but I don't like the idea of not being able to remove them. I put some torque on it and plug broke off at first thread. Now I have a bike that cannot run. So, I then tried the front cylinder. It turned out about a turn, maybe turn and a half then it stopped. It will not come out. Something is going on with those plugs. Now I gotta take the heads off (and see if i can break the front plug off at about the same place) and then see if I can somehow run them through and get them out going clockwise. What a pain in the *** especially because the ceramic is still in the core of the spark plug remains. Anyway, I am a mechanic, I have been wrenching for 40 years, never seen anything like this before. There was no problem with the threads in the plug hoes in the heads till I put these things in. I just wanted to mention it on here in case anyone was considering using them. You might just pass that idea up. The plugs were the correct ones for that engine (E3 plug number E3.36)
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I might add that I am using flat top pistons still. I have the 95" cylinders etc and Short Block Charlie "Scottsman" head job. I've only had Champion and NGK plugs in those heads prior to the E3 plugs but never had any issues with them. I am NOT a happy camper right now, that I can tell you! If I can't get the threaded portions of the broken E3 plugs out of the plug hole, I'm going to have to do some drastic $$$ measures. Just what I need is another project right now.
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I might add that I am using flat top pistons still. I have the 95" cylinders etc and Short Block Charlie "Scottsman" head job. I've only had Champion and NGK plugs in those heads prior to the E3 plugs but never had any issues with them. I am NOT a happy camper right now, that I can tell you! If I can't get the threaded portions of the broken E3 plugs out of the plug hole, I'm going to have to do some drastic $$$ measures. Just what I need is another project right now.
Last edited by Trench; 05-05-2019 at 07:04 PM.
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"Spark plugs are spark plugs" exactly!!
If a plug is working as it should, any other design won't work any better and will probably be worse. I've been around racing, engine building, etc most of my adult life. If you're running the recommended plug, it's gapped right and is the right heat range, that's as good as it gets!
If a plug is working as it should, any other design won't work any better and will probably be worse. I've been around racing, engine building, etc most of my adult life. If you're running the recommended plug, it's gapped right and is the right heat range, that's as good as it gets!
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Hindsight is 20/20. Thanks OP for the heads up on those plugs. Lisle makes a spark plug removal tool that might save you some aggravation, time and money. I am posting the link from Amazon but many places sell this kit. I should mention that even though this kit is not specific for this issue, it does solve the issue with removing sparkplugs where the thread part is unable to turn. Might be worth a shot before you resort to removing the heads.
Mike O from Main South Auto has a great video on Youtube that may be worth watching as he uses this tool to remove some sparkplugs from a Ford truck.
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Mike O from Main South Auto has a great video on Youtube that may be worth watching as he uses this tool to remove some sparkplugs from a Ford truck.
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https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-65700-Broken-Remover-Engine/dp/B00SQ4FSN6/ref=asc_df_B00SQ4FSN6/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312174136943&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1920479429370671634&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9021705&hvtargid=pla-459101379994&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=63790029762&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312174136943&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1920479429370671634&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9021705&hvtargid=pla-459101379994
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