School me on adventage of bigger throttle body and manifold
#21
I'm going to stick with pipe, breather and cam for now because I think the 117 engine has a lot to offer when uncorked. And if I push output up to 140+ bhp I think the suspension's going to need some attention first. Not point making big power if you can't put it onto the road without sliding into a ditch.
Last edited by Gimlet; 01-15-2024 at 08:30 AM.
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Any shop or person using STD correction factor should not be trusted, it's just that simple. SAE writes these standards and when they write them they also give you what they are to be used for. As well as if the standard is still in use.
The purpose of this code is to prove a uniform means of comparing small gasoline engines of 0.82 L (50 in3) or less in displacement and 15.1 kW (20 hp) or less in power output. It is not intended as a laboratory manual. Governor characteristics are considered part of the end item specification. Replaced with J1349"
The SAE J607 otherwise know as STD correction was written for engines of less than 50 in3 ONLY, making less than 20 HP. So right from the start they are trying to apply a Standard to an application that it was never intended to be used on. Now you may also like to know that the Standard was cancel back in Aug. 1988 and replaced with SAE J1349 which is known as the SAE correction. It is commonly know that the STD corrections cannot be trusted but will always show higher results than the SAE standard. How much is really hard to say, as it changes with the weather conditions and the altitude of where the testing is being done. Bottom line is simple, ask yourself would you want to trust the shop that cannot tell you the truth of their test results? There is no excuse today for trying to use a Standard that was CANCELED over 35 years ago, let alone using it improperly to start with.
"Small Spark Ignition Engine Test Code(Cancelled Aug 1988) J607_198808
The purpose of this code is to prove a uniform means of comparing small gasoline engines of 0.82 L (50 in3) or less in displacement and 15.1 kW (20 hp) or less in power output. It is not intended as a laboratory manual. Governor characteristics are considered part of the end item specification. Replaced with J1349"
The SAE J607 otherwise know as STD correction was written for engines of less than 50 in3 ONLY, making less than 20 HP. So right from the start they are trying to apply a Standard to an application that it was never intended to be used on. Now you may also like to know that the Standard was cancel back in Aug. 1988 and replaced with SAE J1349 which is known as the SAE correction. It is commonly know that the STD corrections cannot be trusted but will always show higher results than the SAE standard. How much is really hard to say, as it changes with the weather conditions and the altitude of where the testing is being done. Bottom line is simple, ask yourself would you want to trust the shop that cannot tell you the truth of their test results? There is no excuse today for trying to use a Standard that was CANCELED over 35 years ago, let alone using it improperly to start with.
Last edited by Steve Cole; 01-15-2024 at 11:37 AM.
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